From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: IDE Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 19:21:40 +0300 Message-ID: <8337xgoy5n.fsf@gnu.org> References: <5612E996.7090700@yandex.ru> <83bnc7tavr.fsf@gnu.org> <5618C92A.3040207@yandex.ru> <83a8rrt9ag.fsf@gnu.org> <5618D376.1080700@yandex.ru> <831td3t62e.fsf@gnu.org> <5618E51D.4070800@yandex.ru> <83twpzrp05.fsf@gnu.org> <5618ED93.8000001@yandex.ru> <83lhbbrnn7.fsf@gnu.org> <56191D6B.8040405@yandex.ru> <838u7assvj.fsf@gnu.org> <561A3582.5080806@yandex.ru> <561A3756.1010404@gmx.at> <561A41CA.6060908@yandex.ru> <87io6c5ov5.fsf@gmail.com> <561B999D.2060900@yandex.ru> <871td0460p.fsf@gmail.com> <87si5gjktd.fsf@wanadoo.es> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1444666927 24573 80.91.229.3 (12 Oct 2015 16:22:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 16:22:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=D3scar?= Fuentes Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 12 18:21:57 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlfrJ-0006Pa-1E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 18:21:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56480 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlfrI-0008AY-8T for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 12:21:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49923) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zlfqv-00088F-Ey for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 12:21:34 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zlfqs-0001U0-Qv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 12:21:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout26.012.net.il ([80.179.55.182]:38894) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zlfqs-0001Sm-K3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 12:21:30 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout26.012.net.il by mtaout26.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NW400H00801YE00@mtaout26.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 19:24:33 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.94.185.246]) by mtaout26.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NW400A1988XPN80@mtaout26.012.net.il>; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 19:24:33 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <87si5gjktd.fsf@wanadoo.es> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 80.179.55.182 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:191363 Archived-At: > From: =D3scar Fuentes > Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 15:08:46 +0200 >=20 > As mentioned on other message of mine, this is what a GCC frontend > developer has to say (search for the comments of mlopezibanez): >=20 > https://lwn.net/Articles/629259/ >=20 > Basically what he says is: "No, it is not simple at all to get that > information from GCC, you'll better use Clang." I'd urge interested and motivated individuals not to take one man's opinions for more (or less) than it is. I could fill several hours telling how many many opinions about what could and what couldn't be done for bidi I heard before I decided to sit down and do it. My advice: read what others say, investigate the issues, then make up your own mind.