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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: sbaugh@catern.com
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Using file descriptors in Emacs
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2016 19:39:06 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8337l6bdcl.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87d1ka1l62.fsf@earth.catern.com> (sbaugh@catern.com)

> From: sbaugh@catern.com
> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2016 12:00:21 -0400
> 
> I suppose one could add the capability to pass in a process object as
> the source of input for a new process object. This could be implemented
> by forcing the passed-in process object to a state where it does not
> have (and cannot have) a process-filter function. Then the file
> descriptor used for input to the passed-in process object could be
> manipulated appropriately to make it the stdin of the new process
> object. The new process object in turn will be in a special state where
> it cannot accept input from Emacs.
> 
> Likewise for the capability to pass in a process object as the
> destination for a program's output, instead of a process-filter, and the
> capability to redirect arbitrary file descriptor numbers to point at
> process objects (or other file descriptors).
> 
> Then also it is necessary to handle redirecting to and from files
> without going through Emacs. That could be done by creating a new kind
> of process object which is created by opening a file, and then that can
> be passed in in the way I describe above.

Yes, something like that.

> But to me that sounds somewhat unnatural for the process API.

To me it sounds most natural.  All of our APIs in this area are like
that.

> Are those the kind of extensions you were envisioning?

Yes.

Btw, running a pipe of processes raises another issue, unrelated to
file descriptors: we would need a way to make sure the processes do
not start running until all the redirections are set up, otherwise
some of them will die with SIGPIPE or somesuch.



  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-11 16:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-07  1:25 Teaching emacsclient to act as a pager, and more Spencer Baugh
2016-06-07  1:25 ` [PATCH 1/5] process: add features for direct use of FDs Spencer Baugh
2016-06-07  1:25 ` [PATCH 2/5] server.el: accept FDs from emacsclient Spencer Baugh
2016-06-07  1:25 ` [PATCH 3/5] emacsclient: support passing stdin/out/err to emacs Spencer Baugh
2016-06-07  1:25 ` [PATCH 4/5] server: add pager tapping and show-active Spencer Baugh
2016-06-07  1:25 ` [PATCH 5/5] emacsclient: add extra-quiet mode Spencer Baugh
2016-06-08 15:51 ` Teaching emacsclient to act as a pager, and more Tassilo Horn
2016-06-08 16:13   ` Anders Lindgren
2016-06-08 17:30     ` Tassilo Horn
2016-06-09  0:25   ` raman
2016-06-09 11:31 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2016-06-27 22:42 ` Ole JørgenBrønner
2016-07-24 18:22 ` sbaugh
2016-09-09 13:42   ` Noam Postavsky
2016-09-09 14:14     ` sbaugh
2016-09-09 14:59       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-09-09 15:58         ` sbaugh
2016-09-09 19:26           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-09-09 19:42             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-09 21:13             ` sbaugh
2016-09-10  6:37               ` Using file descriptors in Emacs (was: Teaching emacsclient to act as a pager, and more) Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-10 20:15             ` Teaching emacsclient to act as a pager, and more sbaugh
2016-09-11  2:11               ` Leo Liu
2018-02-16 23:14               ` Kaushal Modi
2018-02-17 15:46                 ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2016-09-09 15:53       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-09 17:16         ` sbaugh
2016-09-09 18:50           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-09 19:03             ` sbaugh
2016-09-09 19:26               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-09 20:38                 ` sbaugh
2016-09-10  7:12                   ` Using file descriptors in Emacs Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-10 14:28                     ` sbaugh
2016-09-11 15:28                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-11 16:00                         ` sbaugh
2016-09-11 16:39                           ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2016-09-11 16:57                             ` sbaugh
2016-09-11 17:13                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-12 15:40                               ` Davis Herring
2016-09-09 13:27 ` Teaching emacsclient to act as a pager, and more sbaugh

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