From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: forward-comment and syntax-ppss Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2016 23:00:46 +0200 Message-ID: <8337hn8u81.fsf@gnu.org> References: < <83fd1db0-7362-6117-c5cd-715398c0dea4@gmail.com> <20161207220447.GA4503@acm.fritz.box> <20161208201517.GB3120@acm.fritz.box> <20161209190747.GC2203@acm.fritz.box> <5a70902f-882e-f616-74b2-df6eb81fc70c@yandex.ru> <20161211101715.GA14084@acm.fritz.box> <51c0554f-40d0-37a5-b134-17058343aa3f@yandex.ru> > <<83oa0c8f7r.fsf@gnu.org>> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1481922102 24481 195.159.176.226 (16 Dec 2016 21:01:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2016 21:01:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: acm@muc.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, drew.adams@oracle.com, dgutov@yandex.ru To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 16 22:01:38 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cHzdJ-0005ej-5I for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 22:01:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34275 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cHzdN-0007AH-KD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 16:01:41 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33917) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cHzdE-0006tG-J2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 16:01:33 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cHzdA-0005VK-Ki for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 16:01:32 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:60494) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cHzdA-0005VC-Hp; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 16:01:28 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3069 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cHzd9-0007bO-J0; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 16:01:28 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Drew Adams on Fri, 16 Dec 2016 08:22:49 -0800 (PST)) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:210542 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2016 08:22:49 -0800 (PST) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: dgutov@yandex.ru, acm@muc.de, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, > emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > > > From where I'm standing, the things you use it for (hide > > > > buffer contents) > > > > > > No. Narrowing is not used to "hide buffer contents". That's not > > > the point of narrowing, even if it is one effect. It's used to > > > make some buffer contents inaccessible to certain (many, typical, > > > ordinary) operations. It is not just you who does not see parts > ^^^^^^^^ > > > of the buffer; it is also Emacs features that do not perceive them. > > > > Narrowing is used for both of these effects. > > Both what effects? The ones you mentioned above. > > One clear example of the former is Info mode, where the buffer > > is always narrowed to the current node. > > Nope. You can say "nope" all you want, the fact stays.