From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Pertinent NEWS parts for the Emacs 26 manual draft Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2017 09:56:32 +0300 Message-ID: <83377465en.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83mv5d95sg.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1506754645 20570 195.159.176.226 (30 Sep 2017 06:57:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2017 06:57:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 30 08:57:21 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dyBi9-0004Vo-0P for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 08:57:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38325 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dyBiE-0007LU-HP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 02:57:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55328) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dyBhj-0007LL-Db for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 02:56:52 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dyBhg-0004KK-Cs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 02:56:51 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:34208) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dyBhg-0004KE-9d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 02:56:48 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1748 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1dyBhV-0003z9-PQ; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 02:56:38 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Richard Stallman on Fri, 29 Sep 2017 17:55:15 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:218958 Archived-At: > From: Richard Stallman > CC: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 17:55:15 -0400 > > > > THe parts to include are those about changes in user commands and > > > user-visible behavior, but excluding changes in modes that are not > > > documented in the Emacs manual (which is most of them). > > > Maybe I misunderstand, but don't the "+++" markers in NEWS already > > tell that? > > Whether the +++ markings are a reliable guide depends on the state of > work on NEWS. They might not yet have been put in; they might have > been removed. An item might have a --- instead, put there because > someone mistakenly thought that item isn't pertinent to the Emacs > Manual. Since I've already asked Nicolas to make a pretest for Emacs 26.1, it should be clear that NEWS was already reviewed (by me in this case), and any such blunders, if there were ones, were already fixed. > Supposing that at present all pertineny items have a +++ marking, they > don't necessarily refer to the Emacs Manual; some indicate that a > feature has been documented in the Emacs Lisp Manual. NEWS has separate sections for Lisp and non-Lisp changes.