From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: automake's .el support vs. recent loss of byte-compile-dest-file Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 18:37:15 +0200 Message-ID: <833755ar44.fsf@gnu.org> References: <50da4282-fb9c-6de8-b054-73038a8ea338@cs.ucla.edu> <8B999815-EA73-4B86-8588-889E1F855A56@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1511455392 31793 195.159.176.226 (23 Nov 2017 16:43:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 16:43:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jim Meyering Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 23 17:43:06 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eHuaW-0007Kp-NZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2017 17:42:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45152 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eHuae-0003da-0e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2017 11:43:04 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48534) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eHuVE-0000fq-Lj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2017 11:37:29 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eHuVD-0004wX-L4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2017 11:37:28 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:40282) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eHuV9-0004sX-Bf; Thu, 23 Nov 2017 11:37:23 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1961 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eHuV7-0008GE-Ih; Thu, 23 Nov 2017 11:37:23 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Jim Meyering on Thu, 23 Nov 2017 08:13:58 -0800) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:220401 Archived-At: > From: Jim Meyering > Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 08:13:58 -0800 > Cc: emacs-devel , Paul Eggert > > > This incompatible change is not in NEWS. We announced the function > > as obsolete in Emacs 23.2, but evidently Automake didn't take notice. > > So I'd rather we restored that functionality, perhaps with some > > annoying warning to encourage Automake to get their act together > > sooner rather than later. Breaking all the Makefile.in files out there > > doesn't sound TRT to me. > > I've just posted an automake fix: > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/automake/2017-11/msg00038.html Thanks. The question that's important to us is, of course, when will this fixed version be available widely enough for us to consider removing the support for the old ones.