From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "Why is emacs so square?" Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2020 16:20:27 +0300 Message-ID: <83368zk3xg.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8wXYP4GY9hwW-9mYv6_LGMETZ8Vz3Ob1Bec6yh6kPT7yxjTkxA3V6dXY4ELra9tYiJUxJmgXKSIEX4w8HFiPRoeGVSQHDSoBVy1voj1e3Qo=@protonmail.com> <83imhzecc5.fsf@gnu.org> <83y2qvcjv6.fsf@gnu.org> <83k12ed20s.fsf@gnu.org> <9GxTqx0raB6NkyAQ4gjUHfoCFK4rgmvRKZaUUxM-p6WOuO_3oJOBYiXI4L8pGz-VtHtgYKJ14Z1nU9UmZ68nJLO18nLYnaBaqBxLEaNN9mg=@protonmail.com> <83d086cu05.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="83746"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, ndame@protonmail.com To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 19 15:21:23 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jQ9sv-000Lge-Sl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 19 Apr 2020 15:21:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41782 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jQ9su-0001Gm-Tq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 19 Apr 2020 09:21:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51874) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jQ9sH-0000p6-4z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Apr 2020 09:20:41 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:51463) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jQ9sG-0002m7-T9; Sun, 19 Apr 2020 09:20:40 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2382 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jQ9s9-0006Cx-7Z; Sun, 19 Apr 2020 09:20:34 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Richard Stallman on Sat, 18 Apr 2020 22:20:39 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:247312 Archived-At: > From: Richard Stallman > Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 22:20:39 -0400 > Cc: ndame@protonmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > This work is licenced under the terms of either the GNU LGPL v3 or > > If the icons would be part of the program, Emacs, that would be the > same situation as with Qt. No good. > > > Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 United States License. > > That is incompatible with every version of the GPL. If the icons > would be part of the program, Emacs, that would be no good. > > If the icons would NOT be part of the program, Emacs, then there > is no conflict. > > The Emacs distribution contains many works, including textual, art, > and small programs, which are distinct from the program, Emacs. What is the practical meaning of being "part of the program, Emacs" as opposed to "being distinct from the program, Emacs"? How does one tell whether a given icon is in this or the other category? E.g., we have a lot of icons in etc/images/. We show these icons on the tool bar and elsewhere when and where appropriate. Are those icons part of Emacs the program, or aren't they?