From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: pyim Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2021 18:37:01 +0200 Message-ID: <8335xmviz6.fsf@gnu.org> References: <1811ed58.18e5.177c79de92a.Coremail.tumashu@163.com> <83lfbgw34w.fsf@gnu.org> <87pn0sc84n.fsf@gmail.com> <83tuq4ufd9.fsf@gnu.org> <878s7gc5eb.fsf@gmail.com> <83r1l8uea3.fsf@gnu.org> <83h7m3v4t2.fsf@gnu.org> <83ft1mvmmj.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18698"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: tumashu@163.com, rpluim@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 23 17:39:25 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lEaiZ-0004lO-SE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2021 17:39:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36550 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lEaiY-00019F-Tp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2021 11:39:22 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41170) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lEagS-0000Mp-OY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2021 11:37:12 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:47726) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lEagR-0001mS-Dm; Tue, 23 Feb 2021 11:37:11 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2169 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lEagP-0005Xg-Sr; Tue, 23 Feb 2021 11:37:10 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Monnier on Tue, 23 Feb 2021 11:17:57 -0500) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:265539 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, tumashu@163.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2021 11:17:57 -0500 > > >> I don't understand the question: the above line shows that the package > >> autoloads this `register-input-method` call. IOW if the user has that > >> package activated (which is the default for all packages that the user > >> installed), then the above line will be executed between `early-init.el` > >> and `init.el`. > > Is that enough to correctly set up the user's language environment? > > I have no idea. I think I'd have to ask Eli or Handa. Then let's ask them, by all means. > > Also, leim-list.el is not just for register-input-method calls; even > > if pyim doesn't need anything else (does it?), input methods in > > general will, so if we want to install input methods from elpa's, we > > need to support that somehow. > > I think we should aim to make it possible without too many contortions > to distribute and install input methods as external packages. I'm fine with that, but first we need to know what those contortions are. So let's ask Eli or Handa about that as well. > > But in general (see my first point) I think input methods should be in > > core, available in "emacs -Q" etc. > > I tend to agree, but I don't think it makes it less important to support > external input methods. I'm fine with having such support, yes.