From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master fb061cd 1/4: ; * etc/NEWS: Rearrange and fix wording of some entries. Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2021 19:29:28 +0300 Message-ID: <8335qfm3o7.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20210906101353.11322.30746@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20210906101355.082C520A0A@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <83fsuhr18r.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22568"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 08 18:31:03 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mO0TW-0005kC-86 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 18:31:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45430 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mO0TV-0003VV-3J for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 12:31:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48596) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mO0Rp-00020E-8G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 12:29:17 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:53532) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mO0Ro-0002bX-Kx; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 12:29:16 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:4953 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mO0Ro-0000ZW-39; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 12:29:16 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Wed, 8 Sep 2021 18:06:38 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:274371 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2021 18:06:38 +0200 > Cc: Emacs developers > > > users will be oblivious to that change, unless the install packages > > from ELPA. The original entry, as stand-alone text, doesn't have any > > practical impact on users that don't install packages, and would just > > leave them wondering what is all this about. > > > > IOW, the changed default doesn't affect anyone who doesn't use > > package.el. Which is why I moved it under that section. > > Could this concern be addressed by adding 2-3 lines that explains what > it is about? As I wrote elsewhere, announcing such changes in the Emacs ecosystem is not the intended purpose of NEWS. So I'm against cluttering it with stuff that does not directly contribute to its purpose: describe changes in using Emacs to users who are familiar with past releases. NEWS is too big already.