From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Dependent colours Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2022 13:38:10 +0300 Message-ID: <8335ie3a3x.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8735ifom48.fsf@gnus.org> <83y2073hen.fsf@gnu.org> <87sfqflqe2.fsf@gnus.org> <83v8vb3au2.fsf@gnu.org> <87czhjk5h7.fsf@gnus.org> <83pmlj3a7p.fsf@gnu.org> <8735ieivjo.fsf@gnus.org> <835yna3d62.fsf@gnu.org> <87wnfqhe34.fsf@gnus.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26571"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 15 12:43:04 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nfJPr-0006g7-RT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 15 Apr 2022 12:43:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57216 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nfJPq-0006Pb-B7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 15 Apr 2022 06:43:02 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43904) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nfJL0-0008LT-Av for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Apr 2022 06:38:02 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:38752) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nfJL0-0004QN-2M; Fri, 15 Apr 2022 06:38:02 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=5wn16+INsnt8lrWywZg/1I5YXWv4XWreq1WSjTvVoZo=; b=nV4QwgeI42Y4 sHISy0/tGljq7hK+BMAfCqw15gvUDa14j+QOzDZHXiNh82SpeC9nRtPnB8fFm6NidwZQPhqxFAuHn mzYk7wrtf1dqee6RrqTiYy/lhfWLkVfyHBd526qm6FUDV/R97oenA85cxgAUJd9vusAZffUxTGdWP r4Rlh26IMW6m4KpLCeDHvro/p8tLVz9W/EngW6OrFARvOpln3GUxLjxuLpuV7iGNcLqPhoqeugUaY k3WO5sALwY8N6iJTcf3atEtV73J7tLA4HL9prtpzFpmFm0TwC9llxa5TGF30XpnVxah7hdXbBCO7U oDIXETosz80JV7N/hpDS+Q==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3896 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nfJKw-0001rU-Kx; Fri, 15 Apr 2022 06:37:59 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87wnfqhe34.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Fri, 15 Apr 2022 11:48:31 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:288431 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2022 11:48:31 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> Colours are colours, but we usually use the face machinery to specify > >> them, and we (almost always) instantiate them on the screen via the face > >> machinery. That doesn't mean that colours per se are face attributes. > > > > I'm probably missing something: what other means do we have in Emacs > > to produce colors on display, except via faces? > > I think I mentioned SVGs already? But we also have the mouse pointer, > and tooltip colours, and various bits and bobs in the toolkits that take > colours as parameters (for menus and scroll bars and etc). Some of those are faces, and the rest are not implemented by us.