From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Adding a "quick-help" menu Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2022 09:17:30 +0300 Message-ID: <8335bn3ret.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87v8pn4968.fsf@posteo.net> <87h7156lg5.fsf@gnus.org> <878rmhdkc9.fsf@posteo.net> <87fsgnfzb2.fsf@posteo.net> <87czav3ie8.fsf@posteo.net> <874jw77d7d.fsf@gnus.org> <87ilkj3ggv.fsf@posteo.net> <5C15FD91-B3CF-46DF-96B1-0B47262E9E9E@gmail.com> <87tu431j8u.fsf@posteo.net> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="34396"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: hmelman@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Philip Kaludercic Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 17 08:24:15 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1okJXp-0008fn-RT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2022 08:24:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42996 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1okJXn-000670-Sb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2022 02:24:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37224) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1okJRY-00035W-Py for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2022 02:17:50 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:34712) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1okJRW-0007zL-Bk; Mon, 17 Oct 2022 02:17:42 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=v/fAQH0PnPXYgziv8gESXk4+44t2rTM3s5YOYpAK0eM=; b=arOGwhF6TtHh u7x6sV5zCZGIw88TGQKpk4tU4cA6Bqf/xUqqX2NliebU/lT42cpVOruDCWL8CyUxUIGqDu2FxmWlk ShbUUH3In61A/192GG7AiybwhwbgliEAT+BhaLreHGuvibGLIfDQ4Z4m9EkkEpFcn6i/uWEq/mIoD W9AS9Ak7VDNeqw/rllNK/nZNQjrdfzhOxlptBX8NQLStK1frPy4VUKLaijaTfgXqWelJ8vczsgp4t lq5KKRLdE/9OqEgQ1BzNNyUyVhWLeldQDFZeqIdQDytKtlT/GFVlh+ea1X5i+uFz8D6WFu6TGXfMH UDCos2fgVJM45DCpVaiRJw==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=2357 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1okJRV-00055K-Py; Mon, 17 Oct 2022 02:17:42 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87tu431j8u.fsf@posteo.net> (message from Philip Kaludercic on Sun, 16 Oct 2022 22:44:33 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:297918 Archived-At: > From: Philip Kaludercic > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2022 22:44:33 +0000 > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > File Buffer Window Mark & Kill Projects Misc. > C-x C-f find C-x k kill C-x 0 kill C-k kill line C-x p p switch C-x C-c exit > C-x C-w write C-x b switch C-x 1 kill others C-SPC mark C-x p f find file C-_ undo > C-x C-s save M-g g goto line C-x 2 split vert. M-w kill region C-x p g search C-s search > C-x s all C-x C-q read only C-x 3 split horiz. C-y yank C-x p r search & replace M-% search & replace > C-x o switch C-x C-x swap C-x p c compile M-q reformat > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > > Instead of renaming "C-x C-c" I have moved it over to "Misc." It is IMO wrong to stuff C-x C-c too far from the beginning. Exiting an unfamiliar application is a frequent need, and it should ideally be right at the beginning.