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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-bidi@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Re: Handling invisible text in bidirectional display
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 22:51:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <831vho8nfl.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <873a24zdsw.fsf@lola.goethe.zz>

> From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 21:17:35 +0100
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> >   3*(54)DCBA
> >
> > which I think is less surprising.
> 
> I disagree, because there is no reason for 5 and 4 to switch their order
> anymore.

Well, then we'll have to disagree.

> There also is a difference between invisibility and display properties
> here: if there is a display property on a letter "x", it is hard to see
> why several consecutive images should be reordered to be L->R.  Of
> course, one should argue that in the presence of L->R, people should
> take care to use the right "shadowed" character to match the intended
> left/rightness of the image.  But I think that is not really sane.  If
> we want display property material to have an explicit direction, it
> should be set with properties, not by some magic derivation from the
> underlying invisible text.

I don't understand the use-case, and without it this reads like a
charade (what "x"? which "shadowed" characters? what images?).  Please
show a complete example, then I'll be able to reason about it.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-01-17 20:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-16 16:54 Handling invisible text in bidirectional display Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-16 18:43 ` martin rudalics
2010-01-16 20:32   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-17  8:59     ` martin rudalics
2010-01-17 19:06       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-18  8:11         ` martin rudalics
2010-01-18  9:54           ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-18 10:39             ` martin rudalics
2010-01-18 12:35               ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-16 19:15 ` David Kastrup
2010-01-16 20:37   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-17 16:05     ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-17 19:29       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-17 20:17         ` David Kastrup
2010-01-17 20:39           ` Ehud Karni
2010-01-17 20:51           ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2010-01-18  6:42             ` David Kastrup
2010-01-18  8:52               ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-16 19:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-16 20:53   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-17 16:04     ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-17 18:24       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-18 11:56         ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-22 13:41       ` Bidi TODO (was: Handling invisible text in bidirectional display) Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-01 14:48         ` [emacs-bidi] " Ehud Karni
2010-01-18  1:27     ` Handling invisible text in bidirectional display Kenichi Handa
2010-01-18  4:00       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-18  7:40         ` Kenichi Handa
2010-01-18  8:56           ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-18 11:09             ` Kenichi Handa

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