From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stephen Leake <stephen_leake@member.fsf.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: MS-Windows build using Posix configury
Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 17:51:54 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <831u93xbsl.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <85li7ba2i6.fsf@member.fsf.org>
> From: Stephen Leake <stephen_leake@member.fsf.org>
> Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 01:48:49 -0500
>
> >> It is always preferable to use --prefix to configure Emacs for
> >> some specific location of its installed tree; the default
> >> /usr/local is not suitable for Windows.
>
> It would be best to say _why_ you think "/usr/local is not suitable for
> Windows". Certainly Microsoft doesn't care about "/usr/local".
It's funny how the most obvious things draw most of the questions.
Here are 2 obvious reasons which I had in mind when I wrote that:
. /usr/local does not specify a drive letter, so its location is
ambiguous, as it depends on the current drive
. Windows systems don't usually have /usr/local on _any_ drive, even
if they have many MinGW packages installed, while one of the main
goals of this build was to allow installing Emacs as part of a
larger tree of ported software, not as a stand-alone package
There's also a subtler problem, already mentioned in this thread,
which might be known to fewer people:
> Neither does MSYS or MinGW (if installed in the default places).
You are wrong here: MSYS does care. It maps /usr/local to a
subdirectory of its installation root. So if MSYS was installed in
C:\MSYS, /usr/local will be actually C:\MSYS\local (note that the
'usr' part disappeared, because MSYS maps both / and /usr to the same
place). Imagine the surprise of a newbie who says "make install" and
then looks in vain for any "usr/local" directory anywhere, and doesn't
find it!
Since INSTALL.MSYS cannot be a treatise on MSYS or anything near it, I
thought that it will be sufficient to say "not recommended", and rely
on people to know about the 2 obvious reasons above, and just go with
the recommendation. How naive of me...
Also:
> Cygwin might, if installed at c:/ (as I do). In that case, it would
> appear your MSYS/MinGW Emacs build is a Cygwin build, which would be
> confusing.
Here, you actually answered your own question: there are Emacs users
on Windows who do actually have Cygwin installed.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-05-19 14:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-04-16 18:24 MS-Windows build using Posix configury Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-16 18:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-16 20:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-04-17 2:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-16 21:17 ` Glenn Morris
2013-04-17 2:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-17 6:25 ` Glenn Morris
2013-04-17 16:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-17 17:11 ` Glenn Morris
2013-04-17 17:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-17 17:53 ` Glenn Morris
2013-04-17 18:15 ` Glenn Morris
2013-04-17 18:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-17 0:42 ` Glenn Morris
2013-04-17 2:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-17 6:24 ` Glenn Morris
2013-04-17 3:33 ` Paul Eggert
2013-04-17 17:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-17 18:48 ` Paul Eggert
2013-04-17 19:15 ` Glenn Morris
2013-04-17 19:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-17 20:43 ` Glenn Morris
2013-04-17 21:19 ` Paul Eggert
2013-04-17 22:38 ` Glenn Morris
2013-04-18 0:52 ` Paul Eggert
2013-04-18 5:29 ` Glenn Morris
2013-04-18 16:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-17 6:27 ` Glenn Morris
2013-04-17 6:31 ` Glenn Morris
2013-04-18 19:32 ` Dani Moncayo
2013-04-18 20:27 ` Dani Moncayo
2013-04-18 21:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-18 22:03 ` Dani Moncayo
2013-04-19 6:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-19 20:17 ` Dani Moncayo
2013-04-20 6:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-20 7:35 ` Dani Moncayo
2013-04-20 7:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-20 17:18 ` Dani Moncayo
2013-04-20 18:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-20 20:21 ` Dani Moncayo
2013-04-21 15:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-21 19:53 ` Dani Moncayo
2013-05-01 15:30 ` Dani Moncayo
2013-05-01 16:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-01 19:30 ` Dani Moncayo
2013-05-01 19:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-02 6:43 ` Dani Moncayo
2013-05-02 16:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-02 18:40 ` Dani Moncayo
2013-05-02 19:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-02 21:42 ` Dani Moncayo
2013-05-02 21:43 ` Dani Moncayo
2013-05-03 8:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-04 10:59 ` Dani Moncayo
2013-05-04 11:04 ` Dani Moncayo
2013-05-04 11:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-04 12:00 ` Dani Moncayo
2013-05-04 12:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-07 19:36 ` Dani Moncayo
2013-05-07 21:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-07 22:04 ` Dani Moncayo
2013-05-08 17:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-08 17:32 ` Dani Moncayo
2013-05-13 12:23 ` Andy Moreton
2013-05-13 16:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-16 6:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-16 6:31 ` Paul Eggert
2013-05-16 6:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-16 7:16 ` Paul Eggert
2013-05-16 7:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-16 13:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-16 14:43 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-05-16 15:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-16 16:10 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-05-16 17:17 ` Dani Moncayo
2013-05-16 17:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-16 18:01 ` Dani Moncayo
2013-05-16 18:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-16 21:02 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-05-17 6:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-16 17:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-16 21:19 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-05-17 9:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-17 12:05 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-05-17 13:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-17 14:03 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-05-17 14:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-17 15:29 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-05-17 16:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-17 16:30 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-05-17 17:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-17 18:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-17 20:47 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-05-18 7:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-18 8:08 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-05-18 9:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-18 13:24 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-05-18 14:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-18 14:28 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-05-18 18:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-18 18:42 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-05-18 18:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-18 19:15 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-05-18 19:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-07 8:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-07 9:36 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-06-07 9:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-19 6:48 ` Stephen Leake
2013-05-19 14:51 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2013-05-21 8:31 ` Stephen Leake
2013-05-21 17:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-21 19:36 ` Stephen Leake
2013-05-25 7:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-19 3:05 ` Ken Brown
2013-04-19 6:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
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