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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Roland Lutz <rlutz-ml@hedmen.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Stop fiddling with my preferences
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 18:42:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <831totswav.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.11.1411231623120.4785@home.local>

> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 16:35:37 +0100 (CET)
> From: Roland Lutz <rlutz-ml@hedmen.org>
> 
> For the past few months, however, each time I upgraded to a new version of 
> Emacs, something in the behavior changed.

The time between Emacs releases is not measured in months,
unfortunately, but in years.

> I had to figure out each time what it was that caused the change and
> how to compensate for it.  This usually took me an hour or more
> since it isn't easily documented and most solutions suggested on the
> web have unwanted side-effects.

Changes in user-visible behavior are documented in etc/NEWS, together
with the description of how to get back old behavior.  If you find
some change that isn't documented like that, please report that as a
bug.

> This sort of behavior changes is common among browsers and proprietary 
> operating systems, but does this make it appropriate for Emacs?  One of 
> the reasons I'm using mature software is exactly that I *don't* have to be 
> worried with each new version that ESC won't stop playing animated GIFs 
> any more, etc.

We change user-visible behavior in response to user demand, not
because Emacs is immature.  User demands and expectations change with
time, and Emacs cannot stay with old defaults forever.

> How about a command like (use-defaults VERSION)?

From the menu bar, click Options->Customize Emacs->New Options, and
you will be able to see all the options that were added or changed
since some Emacs version.

> Also, I'd appreciate if the history of user-visible changes included the 
> commands necessary to restore the previous behavior.

We already do that, see above.  It should be in NEWS; if not, please
report as a bug.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-11-23 16:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-23 15:35 Stop fiddling with my preferences Roland Lutz
2014-11-23 16:27 ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-11-23 17:32   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-23 17:45     ` Roland Lutz
2014-11-23 17:59       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-23 16:42 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2014-11-23 17:25   ` Fabrice Popineau
2014-11-25 14:25     ` Sebastian Wiesner
2014-11-25 16:47       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-25 17:12         ` Sebastian Wiesner
2014-11-25 17:29           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-25 17:30             ` Sebastian Wiesner
2014-11-25 19:18               ` Fabrice Popineau
2014-12-01  7:15   ` Bob Proulx
2014-12-01 13:42     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-01 15:54     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-30 14:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-30 14:15   ` joakim
2014-11-30 15:00     ` Eric Abrahamsen
2014-11-30 14:31   ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2014-11-30 15:43     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-30 19:32       ` H. Dieter Wilhelm

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