From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Preview: portable dumper Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2016 21:38:20 +0200 Message-ID: <831sxrphhv.fsf@gnu.org> References: <9B7513AE176AE5429921DB50D54FD2FC2C07843DEF@MAILBOX.GAM.LOCAL> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1480621806 6024 195.159.176.226 (1 Dec 2016 19:50:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 19:50:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Requena Zabala Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 01 20:50:00 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cCXMk-0000Y8-Hm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 01 Dec 2016 20:49:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58596 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cCXMo-0005Xi-DQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 01 Dec 2016 14:50:02 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52997) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cCXBq-0005fW-O2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Dec 2016 14:38:43 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cCXBn-0008WJ-II for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Dec 2016 14:38:42 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:54796) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cCXBn-0008WB-FB; Thu, 01 Dec 2016 14:38:39 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4528 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cCXBk-0006my-KM; Thu, 01 Dec 2016 14:38:39 -0500 In-reply-to: <9B7513AE176AE5429921DB50D54FD2FC2C07843DEF@MAILBOX.GAM.LOCAL> (message from David Requena Zabala on Thu, 1 Dec 2016 19:50:28 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:209889 Archived-At: > From: David Requena Zabala > Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 19:50:28 +0100 > > > You might remember me from a few months ago, asking about non-toolkit scrollbars on win32 emacs. > At that point: > > - I was willing to learn about learning enough about emacs core and win32 to get those scrollbars. > - I was willing to incorporate any requested changes to better integrate into emacs code base, coding style guidelines, whatever... > - I was willing to go through the burden of the copyright attribution process. > - I wasn't willing to argue ad nausea about the merits of yet another feature implemented in C. > > So these scrollbars never left my own private emacs build. In the process I never took the chance of leveraging my newly acquired knowledge and become a more regular emacs contributor. > > One might wonder to which degree the current C hacker scarcity in the project could actually be caused by the very attitude the Project management holds against C features. I'm not sure I'm following your logic. The only discussion with you about scroll bars I found in the archives is the one that started here: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2015-01/msg00525.html http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2015-01/msg00549.html In that discussion, you asked technical questions about the implementation of scroll-bar support in Emacs, on X and on MS-Windows, and I answered your questions by pointing to the relevant functions which implement that support. At no time in that discussion you proposed something, let alone some code, that was rejected. What am I missing?