From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: How much I can rely on etc/TODO Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 17:12:13 +0300 Message-ID: <831s28637m.fsf@gnu.org> References: <660a63e0-430a-c1d2-2dca-a764493be2cf@gnu.org> <83zhp07501.fsf@gnu.org> <83v9zn7m0g.fsf@gnu.org> <83tvf56eu1.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="144428"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: lxsameer@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 11 16:13:17 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hEaS2-000bO4-7u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 16:13:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49517 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hEaS1-00080Z-7J for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 10:13:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:55729) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hEaRq-0007zk-Kj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 10:13:03 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:56061) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hEaRp-000526-0o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 10:13:02 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2217 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1hEaRM-0006xr-QR; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 10:12:33 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Richard Stallman on Wed, 10 Apr 2019 17:53:03 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:235287 Archived-At: > From: Richard Stallman > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, lxsameer@gnu.org > Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2019 17:53:03 -0400 > > > I don't remember Emacs development ever advancing according to plan. > > It would be nice to have that, I agree, but I don't think it's > > possible in practice. People work on what they feel like working; > > That's the attitude that Emacs developers have now. But it is not > inevitable. Let's try to lead and inspire people to work on some > things that would be a big advance. I described the end result, as I see it. It doesn't follow in any way that this result is due to some negative "attitude" or to lack of trying to lead. In fact, assuming that is IMO unfair to say the least. We all know that one could try as best one can, and have the best intentions and vision, and still fail to reach the goal.