From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs project mission (was Re: "If you're still seeing problems, please reopen." [ Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 18:28:04 +0200 Message-ID: <831rttqo6j.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20191117113054.49837.qmail@mail.muc.de> <20191118175639.08d02820@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <874kz0pa9y.fsf@gnus.org> <87sgmjyn60.fsf@gmx.de> <87imnezyt5.fsf@gmx.de> <481a1f16-d661-0f96-2f45-3d5ec9c1132e@yandex.ru> <871ru0t7p8.fsf@gnus.org> <7a7f8955-ec5f-4e1e-b258-19379588516a@default> <86sgmftq1m.fsf@zoho.eu> <87a78k8mka.fsf@osv.gnss.ru> <868so4bdsi.fsf@zoho.eu> <8736e9h7m1.fsf@gnus.org> <835zj5qpgl.fsf@gnu.org> <87y2w1cn14.fsf@gnus.org> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="164906"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: drew.adams@oracle.com, rms@gnu.org, moasenwood@zoho.eu, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 27 17:30:59 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ia0DS-000gj8-GJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 17:30:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40166 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ia0DP-0005It-Cx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 11:30:57 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58904) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ia0Av-0004z4-F8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 11:28:22 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:53207) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ia0Au-0000Hc-Fv; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 11:28:20 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4037 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ia0AW-0003K4-G8; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 11:27:59 -0500 In-reply-to: <87y2w1cn14.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Wed, 27 Nov 2019 17:16:39 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:242800 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: rms@gnu.org, moasenwood@zoho.eu, drew.adams@oracle.com, > emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 17:16:39 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> The "Recent messages" bit in the bug reports is a bomb just waiting to > >> blow up. > > > > You did read Glenn's message, where he reminds us that we removed this > > part in Emacs 24.5, yes? > > No, what we removed in 24.5 was "recent keystrokes". We still have > "recent messages". Sounds like we will gradually remove every detail of the bug report. Why not remove the command entirely, then? Let's release Emacs 27 without it.