From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Scrolling commands and skipping redisplay, was: Re: emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3 Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 20:42:20 +0300 Message-ID: <831roigikj.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20200403174757.GA8266@ACM> <83tv1rn8fx.fsf@gnu.org> <4f8bb277-b376-97bf-8539-799688d8e66d@yandex.ru> <83eesvmj15.fsf@gnu.org> <6eec7f68-770e-b3b1-4627-6222f3ef7216@yandex.ru> <83ftd9kwlu.fsf@gnu.org> <1de9d24f-eeb7-7d0a-3768-4baba4365066@yandex.ru> <83zhbcdmyi.fsf@gnu.org> <61f565cd-4fee-d48c-a9ef-b78419b3d058@yandex.ru> <83wo6ed4kb.fsf@gnu.org> <464b5639-7790-fdbc-b519-22a6b0e8c016@yandex.ru> <83o8rqaucp.fsf@gnu.org> <551c7634-f614-c5a7-c089-33a0dc56574d@yandex.ru> <83imhyaqyw.fsf@gnu.org> <3ddcec07-079f-18e8-81a7-76eaf9a8187a@yandex.ru> <83d083ia16.fsf@gnu.org> <83y2qqgrr6.fsf@gnu.org> <837dyagkwm.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="92358"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rudalics@gmx.at, rrandresf@gmail.com, dgutov@yandex.ru, acm@muc.de To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 20 19:43:20 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jQaRz-000NsC-EU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 20 Apr 2020 19:43:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39834 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jQaRy-000279-Hm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 20 Apr 2020 13:43:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34766 helo=eggs1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jQaRJ-0001aX-Ry for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Apr 2020 13:42:38 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:52026) by eggs1p.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jQaRI-0003Zx-Un; Mon, 20 Apr 2020 13:42:36 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2662 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jQaR8-00038G-P9; Mon, 20 Apr 2020 13:42:27 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Monnier on Mon, 20 Apr 2020 13:39:18 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:247408 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: Dmitry Gutov , acm@muc.de, rrandresf@gmail.com, > emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, rudalics@gmx.at > Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 13:39:18 -0400 > > >> > So "C-2 C-n" would behave differently from "C-n C-n", or from running > >> > a macro that records 2 C-n in a row? Is that a good thing? > >> Is scroll-conservatively is 1, 'C-2 C-n' should behave differently at > >> the bottom of the window from 'C-n C-n'. > > Why? > > Because that's how `scroll-conservatively` was defined. No. Its definition is spelled out in the doc string. > > they both move point by 2 lines. > > Overall, yes. But one of the commands moves by 2 lines where the other > (identical) two only move by one line. Which brings me back to the point where I explained this, several messages up-thread. So I guess I can now say I'm out of this discussion, since I already said everything I could. Let's agree to disagree.