From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A proposal for a friendlier Emacs Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 17:24:43 +0300 Message-ID: <831riklkyc.fsf@gnu.org> References: <4deb019b-8034-4f18-9bd6-98424a0f09ee@default> <916af7e9-961b-44e5-ab11-0f128f52a8fe@default> <39133459-6582-4772-b2bf-03eb123cb22b@default> <20200928220307.GD18207@protected.rcdrun.com> <83ft71l3cf.fsf@gnu.org> <20200929041613.GH18207@protected.rcdrun.com> <20200929054546.GA22699@protected.rcdrun.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20531"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: alexander.adolf@condition-alpha.com, rms@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jean Louis Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 29 16:26:04 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kNGZw-00059r-3M for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 29 Sep 2020 16:26:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36272 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kNGZv-0001nu-46 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 29 Sep 2020 10:26:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53284) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kNGYv-0000eF-Rf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Sep 2020 10:25:01 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:38167) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kNGYu-0007zi-Py; Tue, 29 Sep 2020 10:25:00 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2807 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kNGYn-0004rA-9i; Tue, 29 Sep 2020 10:24:54 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20200929054546.GA22699@protected.rcdrun.com> (message from Jean Louis on Tue, 29 Sep 2020 08:45:46 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:256701 Archived-At: > Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 08:45:46 +0300 > From: Jean Louis > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, alexander.adolf@condition-alpha.com, > rms@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com > > > Btw, we have a similar functionality built in: try "M-s M-w" after > > marking a word or a phrase. > > I did not know, that is good to search words online, it does not > really define words, it searches for whatever is marked, that is > good. It is not a dictionary though. First, what it does by default has an advantage of being able to look up phrases, not just words. And second, you can customize eww-search-prefix in a way that will search dictionaries: for example Google does that when the query begins with "define:" > I prefer if Emacs would be using GNU Dico software, as part of GNU system: > https://puszcza.gnu.org.ua/software/dico/ as a built in feature, so if > dico exists, it could use it, if it does not exist, it could then > provide www fallback. > > If local dictionary server serves, dico would be using local > dictionaries, if not, it would be using online dictionaries. > > There are hard coded settings for Google Chrome browser in {M-x customize-group RET browse-url RET} > in Emacs, so why not have hard coded settings for dictionary features. That is a completely separate issue: you are talking about setting up the dictionary _servers_ to which the client will talk, something that IMO should be entirely up to the Emacs users.