From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: scratch/command 064f146 1/2: Change command to interactive ... modes Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2021 22:49:38 +0200 Message-ID: <831rdf91r1.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20210213141225.11309.86562@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <87eehid3k2.fsf@gnus.org> <87r1liblzb.fsf@gnus.org> <83y2fq9f0v.fsf@gnu.org> <87k0r8xl7y.fsf@gnus.org> <834kic9g0a.fsf@gnu.org> <8735xwvusc.fsf@gnus.org> <83v9as7xns.fsf@gnu.org> <87pn10ueld.fsf@gnus.org> <83r1lf9apm.fsf@gnu.org> <87a6s3vrnd.fsf@gnus.org> <83o8gj9a8o.fsf@gnu.org> <871rdfvq86.fsf@gnus.org> <83h7mb98g8.fsf@gnu.org> <87o8gjuaez.fsf@gnus.org> <83ft1v97bk.fsf@gnu.org> <877dn7u7wq.fsf@gnus.org> <835z2r94zw.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10329"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, dgutov@yandex.ru To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 16 21:50:27 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lC7Ig-0002aK-Kn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 21:50:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39126 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lC7If-0003W8-Lq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 15:50:25 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40796) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lC7Hr-00034o-25 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 15:49:35 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:60512) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lC7Hq-0007uq-IB; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 15:49:34 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2340 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lC7Hq-0008H5-12; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 15:49:34 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Tue, 16 Feb 2021 14:30:08 -0600) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:264935 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2021 14:30:08 -0600 > Cc: dgutov@yandex.ru, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > To my mind, if two forms of writing the same thing are equally clear and > easy to understand, the less verbose one is often the better choice. > But I would claim that the more verbose form in this case is less clear > and harder to understand. > > It is also more typing, so isn't it obviously therefore also harder to > write? I'm not talking mainly about the number of keys pressed, which I > think we can agree objectively speaking will be higher, but the amount > of new things you need to learn and remember to write even fairly basic > Emacs Lisp. I think these nano-issues, if they are issues at all, don't come close to justifying incompatible changes.