From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Current mode command discovery Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 21:34:41 +0200 Message-ID: <831rde7ajy.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87v9aubm96.fsf@gnus.org> <83a6s6bkrg.fsf@gnu.org> <87mtw6bkjo.fsf@gnus.org> <838s7qbjn2.fsf@gnu.org> <87eehi820x.fsf@gnus.org> <83v9at9xel.fsf@gnu.org> <87wnv8xlqa.fsf@gnus.org> <838s7o9g90.fsf@gnu.org> <87im6revhq.fsf@tcd.ie> <83im6r98qd.fsf@gnu.org> <87k0r7uade.fsf@gnus.org> <83eehf978r.fsf@gnu.org> <87ft1vu9hd.fsf@gnus.org> <838s7n95pf.fsf@gnu.org> <8735xvu7sx.fsf@gnus.org> <834kib94ha.fsf@gnu.org> <874kibh9mu.fsf@telefonica.net> <83o8gi7lh2.fsf@gnu.org> <871rdebmmh.fsf@telefonica.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15210"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=D3scar?= Fuentes Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 17 20:35:51 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lCSc3-0003nx-HW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 20:35:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36212 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lCSc2-0001D8-Br for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 14:35:50 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49176) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lCSap-0000Hb-M7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 14:34:35 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:53549) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lCSao-000251-Q1; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 14:34:34 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2471 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lCSam-0006pU-LF; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 14:34:33 -0500 In-Reply-To: <871rdebmmh.fsf@telefonica.net> (message from =?iso-8859-1?Q?=D3scar?= Fuentes on Wed, 17 Feb 2021 19:00:22 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:265060 Archived-At: > From: Óscar Fuentes > Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 19:00:22 +0100 > > > IOW, let's not assume that the marking is perfect. It's done by us, > > and we can make mistakes. > > Yes, aka bugs. Why would we cripple a feature because it can contain > bugs? Because if and when this particular kind of a bug hits, it will have dire consequences. IOW, we are talking about risk management here: a low-probability event with high cost, if and when it happens. > The user has many fire scapes: he can edit the function, use M-: or, > simply, disable the filtering. Many users won't know how to do any of these. > Nobody is suggesting that the filtering should be mandatory. Maybe we > can argue about the default, but that's all The default is _all_ I was arguing about. the rest were suggestions for making this feature more balanced IMO, but I'm okay with those suggestions slip, if no one else thinks they are useful.