From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: macOS metal rendering engine in mac port Date: Sat, 29 May 2021 22:10:20 +0300 Message-ID: <831r9p5pb7.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83k0ni6pje.fsf@gnu.org> <83eedq6mvm.fsf@gnu.org> <83zgwd6gk3.fsf@gnu.org> <83bl8t5vu6.fsf@gnu.org> <837djh5tca.fsf@gnu.org> <4bb3fc5e-5aad-c888-8dfe-d51115cdd61a@yandex.ru> <835yz15rv2.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="34709"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: alan@idiocy.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, aaronjensen@gmail.com, dgutov@yandex.ru To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat May 29 21:11:21 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ln4Mj-0008q4-5e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 29 May 2021 21:11:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37056 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ln4Mi-0005EG-8B for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 29 May 2021 15:11:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42412) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ln4Lf-0004Qm-GF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 May 2021 15:10:15 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:51318) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ln4Ld-0006cF-RB; Sat, 29 May 2021 15:10:13 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:3842 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ln4Ld-0007qm-DB; Sat, 29 May 2021 15:10:13 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Monnier on Sat, 29 May 2021 15:06:43 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:270095 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: Dmitry Gutov , alan@idiocy.org, > aaronjensen@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sat, 29 May 2021 15:06:43 -0400 > > The "rule of thumb" that I internalized over the years in my model of > the world is that a "key press to display" of ~100ms is perceived by > most people as "almost but not quite instantaneous" and only once you > get below 50ms is it really perceived as instantaneous by most people. That matches my experience as well.