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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: rgm@gnu.org, stefan@marxist.se, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Merging release branch
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2021 15:48:31 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <831r42ptk0.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mtmqr8wn.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Sat,  30 Oct 2021 14:31:36 +0200)

> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
> Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,  rgm@gnu.org,  stefan@marxist.se,
>   emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2021 14:31:36 +0200
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> >> The people who commit things to master would also be tasked with
> >> deciding whether to cherry-pick things for the release branch.
> >
> > That assumes they will want to, and will do a good job.
> 
> That's an assumption that doesn't change -- we assume that now, and we
> continue to assume so in the future.

No, until now committers didn't have to merge to master, they just
committed to a single branch.

> >> Speaking for myself, a cherry-picking work flow would be less work, not
> >> more work in general, because I normally use an Emacs from the master
> >> branch.
> >
> > Then it's good for you, but not for me: when a release is in progress,
> > I work mainly on the release branch.
> 
> And you can continue to do so -- and cherry-pick commits to master.

That's a disadvantage, because Git will not help us track which
changes from the branch are on master (and vice versa).

> > And of course, cherry-picking doesn't remove merge conflicts, they
> > will still need to be resolved.
> 
> So that's neither more than less work than the merge based work flow --
> but with the advantage that you're resolving one pick at a time instead
> of the more overwhelming thing that can happen when merging and you get
> conflicts from several commits at once.

Conflicts are generally rare with Git, though.

> > We've been using the current workflow for years without any major
> > problems.  Changing that now radically doesn't make sense to me.  It
> > will most probably need several procedures to be modified that were
> > stable for several releases, and I don't see the gains which would
> > justify that.  We have enough real work on our hands.  So please let's
> > not do that.
> 
> What's changed is that Glenn is (understandably) no longer willing to do
> the merges, so something has to change.  (Unless somebody else picks up
> the slack, and we can continue as before.)

We haven't even tried to find a new volunteer yet.  You suggest that
we give up before we even try.



  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-30 12:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-29 16:35 Merging release branch Glenn Morris
2021-10-29 16:42 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-29 17:01 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-29 18:10   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-29 18:26     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-29 18:52       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-29 19:55         ` Daniel Martín
2021-10-30 11:42           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-30 13:42             ` Daniel Martín
2021-10-30 20:32               ` Tassilo Horn
2021-10-29 19:58         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-30 11:51           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-30 12:11             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-30 12:30               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-30 12:32                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-30 13:34                   ` dick
2021-10-31 11:38                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-31 13:03                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-30 16:33                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-30 21:36                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-31  7:19                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-30 23:14                   ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-30 23:17                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-31  7:20                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-31  8:13                       ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-31 11:40                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-31 12:58                         ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-31 21:59                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-31 14:46                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-31 15:12                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-31 15:15                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-31 16:02                               ` Dealing with merge noise (was: Merging release branch) Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-10-31 18:19                                 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-31 18:31                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-31 22:00                           ` Merging release branch Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-30 12:31               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-30 12:48                 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2021-10-29 19:00       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-29 19:05         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-29 19:17           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-29 20:29           ` David Engster
2021-10-29 17:08 ` dick
2021-11-06  9:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-06 10:53   ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-06 16:14     ` Glenn Morris
2021-11-06 16:11   ` Glenn Morris
2021-11-06 17:19     ` Eli Zaretskii

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