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* Re: master 69521ffcb0: Clarify the doc string of 'with-buffer-unmodified-if-unchanged'
       [not found] ` <20220504084622.0F678C009A8@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org>
@ 2022-05-04  9:10   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  2022-05-04  9:30     ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2022-05-04  9:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-devel; +Cc: Eli Zaretskii

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

> +Note that only changes in the raw byte sequence of the buffer text,
> +as stored in the internal representation, are monitored for the
> +purpose of detecting the lack of changes in buffer text.  Any other
> +changes that are normally perceived as \"buffer modifications\", such
> +as changes in text properties, `buffer-file-coding-system', buffer
> +multibytenes, etc. -- will still cause the buffer to become modified."

This is pretty unclear -- the point is that if BODY does any of those
"buffer modifications", the buffer will won't be marked as modified.
This seems to say the opposite.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no



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* Re: master 69521ffcb0: Clarify the doc string of 'with-buffer-unmodified-if-unchanged'
  2022-05-04  9:10   ` master 69521ffcb0: Clarify the doc string of 'with-buffer-unmodified-if-unchanged' Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2022-05-04  9:30     ` Eli Zaretskii
  2022-05-04  9:54       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2022-05-04  9:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: emacs-devel

> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
> Date: Wed, 04 May 2022 11:10:05 +0200
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > +Note that only changes in the raw byte sequence of the buffer text,
> > +as stored in the internal representation, are monitored for the
> > +purpose of detecting the lack of changes in buffer text.  Any other
> > +changes that are normally perceived as \"buffer modifications\", such
> > +as changes in text properties, `buffer-file-coding-system', buffer
> > +multibytenes, etc. -- will still cause the buffer to become modified."
> 
> This is pretty unclear -- the point is that if BODY does any of those
> "buffer modifications", the buffer will won't be marked as modified.
> This seems to say the opposite.

Which part(s) say the opposite?



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* Re: master 69521ffcb0: Clarify the doc string of 'with-buffer-unmodified-if-unchanged'
  2022-05-04  9:30     ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2022-05-04  9:54       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  2022-05-04 10:10         ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2022-05-04  9:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: emacs-devel

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> > +multibytenes, etc. -- will still cause the buffer to become modified."
>> 
>> This is pretty unclear -- the point is that if BODY does any of those
>> "buffer modifications", the buffer will won't be marked as modified.
>> This seems to say the opposite.
>
> Which part(s) say the opposite?

"Become modified" is most easily interpreted as (buffer-modified-p) => t.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no



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* Re: master 69521ffcb0: Clarify the doc string of 'with-buffer-unmodified-if-unchanged'
  2022-05-04  9:54       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2022-05-04 10:10         ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2022-05-04 10:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: emacs-devel

> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Wed, 04 May 2022 11:54:39 +0200
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> >> > +multibytenes, etc. -- will still cause the buffer to become modified."
> >> 
> >> This is pretty unclear -- the point is that if BODY does any of those
> >> "buffer modifications", the buffer will won't be marked as modified.
> >> This seems to say the opposite.
> >
> > Which part(s) say the opposite?
> 
> "Become modified" is most easily interpreted as (buffer-modified-p) => t.

Ah, yes.  Should be fixed now, thanks.



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