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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: larsi@gnus.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Redisplay hook error backtraces
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2022 20:09:02 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <831quntydt.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YtA/RTpWOtRDJADz@ACM> (message from Alan Mackenzie on Thu, 14 Jul 2022 16:07:33 +0000)

> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2022 16:07:33 +0000
> Cc: larsi@gnus.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
> 
> > There's just one condition-case available to Lisp code, AFAICT, so why
> > isn't it enough to distinguish condition-case from any other callers of
> > internal_condition_case* ?
> 
> I think I understand what you're saying, now.  That a condition-case
> called from Lisp will not use any of the internal_condition_case*
> functions.  So we could just assume that if i_c_case* triggers, it must be
> one of the hooks we're interested in that called it.
> 
> I don't think that's right.  It might well be that Lisp code calls a C
> primitive function that itself uses an internal_condition_case.  In this
> scenario, we would not want to generate a backtrace for that nested
> internal_condition_case.

And we won't, because redisplaying_p won't be set.

> > > I disagree.  There are seven places, for the seven different Lisp hooks
> > > currently called from redisplay.
> 
> > Aren't they all go through safe_call?
> 
> They do, yes, but so do other things that we don't want to engage the
> backtrace mechanism for.
> 
> > Which seven places are you talking about?
> 
> 1. handle_fontified_prop;
> 2. set_message;
> 3. clear_message;
> 4. prepare_menu_bars (near the top);
> 5. update_menu_bar (line ~54);
> 6. run_window_scroll_functions;
> 7. redisplay_window (line ~415).

These either go through safe__call, or through run_hook_with_args.  I
think the latter group should be converted to call safe__call and its
friends.  And then you will have what I described: all those calls go
through a single gate.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-07-14 17:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-25 13:42 Why is it so difficult to get a Lisp backtrace? Alan Mackenzie
2022-06-25 15:26 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-06-25 15:30   ` Stefan Kangas
2022-06-25 15:52     ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-06-25 16:27       ` Stefan Kangas
2022-06-25 15:35   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-25 15:59     ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-06-25 16:51       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-25 19:45         ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-06-26  5:20           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-27 19:48             ` Fontification error backtrace [Was: Why is it so difficult to get a Lisp backtrace?] Alan Mackenzie
2022-06-28 11:43               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-28 11:57               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-28 17:28                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-06-28 18:17                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-28 19:31                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-06-29 19:00                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-12 19:48                         ` Redisplay hook error bactraces [Was: Fontification error backtrace] Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-13 12:33                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-13 18:41                             ` Redisplay hook error backtraces Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-13 19:00                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-13 20:12                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-13 20:49                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2022-07-14  5:12                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-14  9:01                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-14  9:10                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-14 13:42                                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-14 13:59                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-14 16:07                                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-14 16:18                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2022-07-14 19:47                                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-14 20:48                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2022-07-15  5:50                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-15 18:18                                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-16  6:03                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-14 17:09                                               ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2022-07-14 19:33                                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-16  6:12                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-16 15:45                                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-13 19:13                           ` Redisplay hook error bactraces [Was: Fontification error backtrace] Stefan Monnier
2022-07-13 19:24                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-13 19:58                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-13 20:45                               ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-30 20:34                       ` Fontification error backtrace [Was: Why is it so difficult to get a Lisp backtrace?] Stefan Monnier
2022-07-01  5:39                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-01 15:34                           ` Juri Linkov
2022-07-01 16:04                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-01 19:14                               ` Juri Linkov
2022-07-01 19:26                           ` Stefan Monnier
2022-07-02  5:53                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-02 21:15                               ` Stefan Monnier
2022-07-02 20:27                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-02 21:12                           ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-26  8:45 ` Why is it so difficult to get a Lisp backtrace? Stefan Monnier

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