From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Docstring hack Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2022 19:43:38 +0300 Message-ID: <831qu25z5x.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83bkt6687a.fsf@gnu.org> <871qu2lo29.fsf@yahoo.com> <837d3u63ez.fsf@gnu.org> <834jyy61w6.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7780"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lynn Winebarger Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 30 18:44:38 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oHpZt-0001q2-JH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 30 Jul 2022 18:44:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:32804 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oHpZr-0002ll-Sc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 30 Jul 2022 12:44:35 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35738) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oHpZ7-00025J-SF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Jul 2022 12:43:49 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:38512) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oHpZ7-0005qZ-H3; Sat, 30 Jul 2022 12:43:49 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=to5fPgh+YAPYWQaDa087BMk7vzyDs/uX8RFumEGM7Yk=; b=Gz965/LuQZUZ L6eIwOgRW+OJGmFqNAQT2baQQBDf12oR+rWpm5n61x9N0HuvVtQkrjTh8wU71u/5mS6npYl8zUNjv HbntYwEzrS+3XbCFfKQAKUSu7OE6r2E6pYl5mWvzzG7CfN7LfEWt3iMj7gr54mxUfNpvSkcBQI6N0 uWJypxhPxH3JkVNO8eeMr6aMbhsmmPFX+/9tV1mIiUgck9Wn3q/0X5OV3pC9y/vVWNPBEHIXTETJC PFbBuKg+cEnM9JVXfBMFDm5VDr0jCA9XxDLV9zqHRQ77LzJ0NJ9UJsnyGWxFScxbm3cqB2Tu7idBG +4xL1sekDZftcpx9YfRZMg==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=1444 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oHpZ7-0006X3-0v; Sat, 30 Jul 2022 12:43:49 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Lynn Winebarger on Sat, 30 Jul 2022 12:32:27 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:292883 Archived-At: > From: Lynn Winebarger > Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2022 12:32:27 -0400 > Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, emacs-devel > > Does this happen with any package we actually preload via loadup.el? > > If you're not going to support using site-load except in the most trivial of ways, then you should say that in the > documentation. Did I say that we are not going to support this? I asked an informative question, with the purpose of figuring out how urgent it is for us to fix this issue. Do I really deserve a cold shower for asking such questions? > But if you're not going to be willing to take up such bug fixes on some general principle (that I don't > understand in a free software project), that would be useful to know. I didn't say that, either. And I couldn't really give any specific answer to such a general question, because it depends on what kinds of bugs and in which parts of the code you will report. I could only answer such question on a case by case basis. > Personally, I am going to proceed with the last option (the fifth) TBH I don't really understand your 5 alternatives, because you are alluding to symbols I cannot find in the sources: I see neither read_literal_string nor dynamic-docstring. Are those typos or am I blind?