From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: icon-title-format vs. frame-title-format (Bug#61496) Date: Thu, 04 May 2023 19:08:02 +0300 Message-ID: <831qjwkrkt.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87bkj1ar9n.fsf@yahoo.com> <7e6334ce-c9a3-2c58-d263-fa962f0c2f7d@web.de> <877ctocfpq.fsf@telefonica.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29144"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar?= Fuentes , Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu May 04 18:15:43 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pubcN-0007LC-13 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 04 May 2023 18:15:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pubbR-0006L8-FS; Thu, 04 May 2023 12:14:45 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pubUG-0004Yd-CA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 May 2023 12:07:20 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pubUF-0006rc-GZ; Thu, 04 May 2023 12:07:19 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=AqdWUAUArb9J2WwJphUsCwmc0V3oIrI6MdXNn2Wyjbs=; b=Be8PQ5bjMZQGvJ66hIAx p3KCI553A/siuRy24K7SB1/GoOXt12waAcy45xTAoitbWmTmw8LbJhg19IoCE5JxUlxGsBjOc7+fW AwUrv4ShSdUN/kMHgdt7vnI5MdF0oA2ZJw7sQoIkoKqS3SDfyhQHKvcvb5PhRqn9HG8cJ4FPg8FVQ hSPi6u6e9k4HMYvZnCGAcmD9h9x7nN8f5Y6wXOBSUrZYWRMwn9vCrQ/iOthBqEu1CASGl0vcWiuqQ 6Wokc1b3TAunB5BuXBgHuU+Tk/UTtGcuV1cucRG/zY4pCFmkaQX8aHJY5/yxIZxQ3VBRO+23jMADS vBkSAh3ixqlSBQ==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pubU8-0003VJ-KC; Thu, 04 May 2023 12:07:19 -0400 In-Reply-To: <877ctocfpq.fsf@telefonica.net> (message from =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar?= Fuentes on Thu, 04 May 2023 16:51:29 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:305831 Archived-At: > From: Óscar Fuentes > Date: Thu, 04 May 2023 16:51:29 +0200 > > > So let's please not use the term "minimize". Thanks. > > What's wrong with saying "iconified or minimized"? > > IIRC a few years ago there was on this list some acknowledgment of the > problems posed by using obsolete terminology in Emacs and some actions > were discussed to converge to modern wording up to some extent. > > Rejecting "___ or minimized" on the docs only works nowadays if the goal > is obfuscating things. We don't reject it. Please, both of you, make a point of actually looking at our manuals before starting argument about problems that don't exist. This is a tempest in a teapot.