From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Android port of Emacs Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2023 09:47:33 +0300 Message-ID: <831qiashyy.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83v8fnslfz.fsf@gnu.org> <87fs6reyn0.fsf@yahoo.com> <83a5wysjbf.fsf@gnu.org> <878rcifvaf.fsf@yahoo.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29645"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: yandros@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 17 08:48:11 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qAPjG-0007Wm-JL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 17 Jun 2023 08:48:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qAPii-0006jO-Ds; Sat, 17 Jun 2023 02:47:36 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qAPih-0006jG-7k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Jun 2023 02:47:35 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qAPig-0000v5-Qy; Sat, 17 Jun 2023 02:47:34 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=1Ic3y4bqX8wSN5HmrqKlBbKpliVewdoa7mstzZ7EEVU=; b=UVGt5e4uD0Sr CBea43pIDtd8oSO9c53c12uXq9RP/jzvGtT59YVNBfRbwrO3ZQs6llJDunRxfmbLKZ8Jnj1xiwB44 RTjZfC94dAGgYqgWlN7cKnTn5/OTpWuZ7SYyNMSGK/LPzoHo2Qj1yd7mOOhqIxQzXYZsTvzfhRcVv 833t2iwl52tMc8J8dLyxkbN7HH5Z6cqjjnNJvQ5nw+EGUoBKpNajc8rWpmgiGsSpiz/JMmnuzVatC KWWjN0uBZI5h9Ej8Zhq1Y/+dXVP1zB7fWGYg87xwTKIGKQJjygi1NWWohGpXKJI2arOqT1lpj1twk llAF6qigjwWWAiKcm4jU3A==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qAPig-0005RO-7N; Sat, 17 Jun 2023 02:47:34 -0400 In-Reply-To: <878rcifvaf.fsf@yahoo.com> (message from Po Lu on Sat, 17 Jun 2023 14:38:16 +0800) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:306857 Archived-At: > From: Po Lu > Cc: yandros@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2023 14:38:16 +0800 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > From my POV, adding a significant new port for a widely-used platform, > > without a commitment to keep that port working for the observable > > future, makes no sense whatsoever. > > That's exactly what we're doing with all the ports to widely-used > proprietary systems: MS Windows, Mac OS, USG Unix, etc. We don't commit > to keeping them working, only to keep them working to the extent that > their users do the same. Those already exist, so we don't need to make any decisions about them. That's the difference. > > It's a decision to commit our scarce resources when we know in advance > > that those resources will be wasted on code with no future. > > The resources being committed are mine alone. I don't want to waste that as well: we have enough issues and future developments in the relevant parts of X and GTK where we could use your resources better. > And how do we know that the code has no future? If we don't seriously commit to maintaining it, that follows.