From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andy Moreton Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Pretest Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 22:13:15 +0100 Message-ID: <82boueq5n8.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87fwjsqs9l.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87obyf44kd.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1316553231 12354 80.91.229.12 (20 Sep 2011 21:13:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 21:13:51 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 20 23:13:47 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R67dS-0000jH-0O for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 23:13:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52802 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R67dR-00029w-Fb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:13:45 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:47824) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R67dO-00029M-Kt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:13:43 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R67dN-0007cL-Af for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:13:42 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:51592) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R67dN-0007bP-5H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:13:41 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R67dJ-0000dE-Pg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 23:13:37 +0200 Original-Received: from 82-69-64-228.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk ([82.69.64.228]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 23:13:37 +0200 Original-Received: from andrewjmoreton by 82-69-64-228.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 23:13:37 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 27 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 82-69-64-228.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (windows-nt) Cancel-Lock: sha1:3FHbD+fRpcvZhLR6Q8UZCNt7XMU= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:144128 Archived-At: On Tue 20 Sep 2011, Chong Yidong wrote: > "Drew Adams" writes: > >> After Martin relentlessly and carefully worked out the bugs from his >> humongous, many-faceted, and detailed buffer-display changes, you >> suddenly changed it all again (recently). And during a feature >> freeze, no less. Even Martin (our resident window/buffer-display >> expert) has admitted that he does not yet understand the new code. >> >> Does that count as "something coming up"? > > No. I think you dismiss Drew's concerns too lightly. Where is the user level documentation comprehensible by mere mortals to explain the new display code and its customisation ? It seems to me that most ordinary users of emacs have little chance of understanding what the new features are, never mind how to configure emacs to their liking. Please assuage my doubts by pointing out the relevant sections in the manual. AndyM