From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Pluim Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Network Security Manager merge time? Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 12:34:18 +0100 Organization: not if I can help it Message-ID: <82a93mqf5x.fsf@oracle.com> References: <82r3wzxfp5.fsf@oracle.com> <82egszx92i.fsf@oracle.com> <827fyrx8eg.fsf@oracle.com> <82egsyqm2y.fsf@oracle.com> Reply-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1416483410 3379 80.91.229.3 (20 Nov 2014 11:36:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 11:36:50 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 20 12:36:42 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XrQ2U-0002Zc-Kx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 12:36:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34700 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XrQ2U-0002JV-3k for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 06:36:42 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39046) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XrQ1q-00024O-UO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 06:36:09 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XrQ1k-0004l7-4d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 06:36:02 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:58268) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XrQ1j-0004h6-MU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 06:35:55 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XrQ1h-0002GH-Px for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 12:35:53 +0100 Original-Received: from vav06-1-78-207-202-9.fbx.proxad.net ([78.207.202.9]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 12:35:53 +0100 Original-Received: from rpluim by vav06-1-78-207-202-9.fbx.proxad.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 12:35:53 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 16 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: vav06-1-78-207-202-9.fbx.proxad.net Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.51 (cygwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:W2Z6BYHN20URsxkky5YE9IPSFdI= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:177865 Archived-At: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: > Robert Pluim writes: > >> This is true. Given the news about various ISPs removing 'STARTTLS' from >> server capabilities, I've now moved over to using nntps directly. > > I doubt ISPs have even heard about NNTP these days. :-) And NSM will > warn you if a previously STARTTL server now is lacking encryption. They were doing it for smtp connections as well. Anyway, the warning is a good thing to know. Thanks Robert