From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jambunathan K Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: WikEmacs as Emacs as Crowdfund database Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 03:55:32 +0530 Message-ID: <81y5pkg42r.fsf_-_@gmail.com> References: <877gx9ypx2.fsf@gmail.com> <87pqb0yi8y.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1335306358 21904 80.91.229.3 (24 Apr 2012 22:25:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 22:25:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Tom Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 25 00:25:57 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SMoBJ-0003t5-3k for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 00:25:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41357 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SMoBI-0004Va-Em for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:25:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60147) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SMoBF-0004VK-Gv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:25:54 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SMoBD-0007mD-Gh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:25:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pb0-f41.google.com ([209.85.160.41]:53042) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SMoBD-0007lS-7l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:25:51 -0400 Original-Received: by pbcup15 with SMTP id up15so668376pbc.0 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 15:25:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=DlrA6KjS9kBUGi4DH7b9tFWOhj3sUd3YfPnNyPmMCk8=; b=sT4n5XNkUhOYhkB9RxlTMOZfAkbLKSwCLktNoqxklXCiMBuPa3LpGwRB43eEJ6XWez pCHOiEdi4h0VjT5yADpP6wXQe3OR7JvJAroQ2LbZwk+A3SIOw3S+4VZWACOgYVD4WeXX iHHgC/IPvSV/bTshUoqI8bXpx2I5a436oxIx1kWBBqNAqm3pSln7SUidBBEPWZKuSv+v wLcUNv2QAW7E/frSKLruVbZ3xFJ36Sc1PNTXY+7qJfY/LMPg+3Nb75jYaOTo8G2hhYu0 EVYNo4XX3MPRiqY/VCpMQ88gITz36ne42wGHO0W6NBVgeGuBVQjn2V2MdhKNrc/e3wJ3 jAQg== Original-Received: by 10.68.129.65 with SMTP id nu1mr1759254pbb.18.1335306348193; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 15:25:48 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from JAMBU-NETBOOK ([115.184.68.178]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ne6sm2502877pbc.13.2012.04.24.15.25.44 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 24 Apr 2012 15:25:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Tom's message of "Sun, 22 Apr 2012 09:41:01 +0000 (UTC)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.95 (windows-nt) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.85.160.41 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:149975 Archived-At: Assuming that the new crowdfund addons get distributed via GNU ELPA, I earlier proposed use of debbugs. Instead of using Emacswiki, I suggest that you can consider WikEmacs - http://wikemacs.org/wiki/Main_Page. I suggest: 1. A project page for each of the crowdfunded project. 2. A set of users who categorize themselves as a proposer, sponsor of a project. 3. We need a set of users who declare themselves as crowdfund workhorses or ELisp freelancers. A sponsor will pledge his few $s to a table in page (1) which a (3) can use to assess the viability. All parties can communicate with each other and all the conversation can be available for public. The first success story can trigger other success stories. This thread has generated so much excitement. I am yet to see a concrete proposal for a crowdfunded project. A proposal is more than saying "This sucks. It shouldn't". I still would like to see a writeup on your original proposal irrespective of whether someone would run with it. Remember a crowdfund-workhorse may not know Java or python, so you need to add few words that give the freelancer some starting point. I suggest that you throw your pollens without even caring for whether there would be wind or there will be fertile receptors for it. Remember nothing succeeds like success. --