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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:294968 Archived-At: On 22-09-08 16:03 , Gerd Möllmann wrote: > On 22-09-08 15:54 , Eli Zaretskii wrote: >>> Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2022 14:47:48 +0200 >>> Cc: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, jao@gnu.org >>> From: Gerd Möllmann >>> >>> And I'd leave the "normal" terminal code out of this. >> >> Including frame-based redisplay in update_frame? > > Yes, I'd leave that as-is.  The frame-based updates used to be quite > important for relatively dumb and slow terminals because it increases > the possibility of reusing parts of the display that are alreay > displayed on the terminal. > > I guess terminal emulators allowing images and such are less likely to > benefit from that. Or even, do we still have terminals connected with, don't know, say 1200 baud or some such? If not, or not many, maybe such a new backend that is not frame-based could replace the frame-based one eventually?