From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Reitter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: custom-reevaluate-setting / custom-initialize-delay Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 13:40:32 -0500 Message-ID: <81F2C51D-1E10-4301-9721-5AFDCD8848B2@gmail.com> References: <64d3zvx1zi.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-45-880423900" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1266950497 557 80.91.229.12 (23 Feb 2010 18:41:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 18:41:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 23 19:41:32 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NjzhG-0007ZX-Ow for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2010 19:41:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47927 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NjzhG-000405-8a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2010 13:41:26 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Njzgb-0003Te-Nu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2010 13:40:45 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=42642 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Njzga-0003Sp-Pn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2010 13:40:45 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Njzga-0001Wh-9R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2010 13:40:44 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-vw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.212.41]:38573) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NjzgY-0001W4-HC; Tue, 23 Feb 2010 13:40:42 -0500 Original-Received: by vws15 with SMTP id 15so65108vws.0 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 2010 10:40:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:mime-version :content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:references:to:x-pgp-agent:x-mailer; bh=u4waUiQ6/vd96kc2rRkoaClgN2hRHUIPS+csSF8dzl8=; b=ukEyAemRR6rKzytN2+kFm8pi/wm5HTk1y3UUswfdbSfXeJ6s+rojT6tcZi7XXxwZvR 39eL2RkolI0hQxV+AfeaHJhPrzCpmji4eAqH5aYbd9RptxJBMdmo02/agArZA0rsFIpV 5kDWgKrJAQr6L6c7U7X0cUQeww527r9EoQTgU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-pgp-agent :x-mailer; b=Vzuk1S9c2SDwJ64fYmyVPzG38dpE970YLN4HfSnsh7EWrNmYVdvoNAc3PZx/8/wqoY xOSaZ+144OVxiF7pBjmk+CrdRcs8/3uuEb+7CIoT7xJkqWGA51G92wYTxtiMGtpRvifV KkNq8yFJJjKgnCzGPReBT4kBwdCO+44htaD8s= Original-Received: by 10.220.121.139 with SMTP id h11mr4108216vcr.147.1266950441531; Tue, 23 Feb 2010 10:40:41 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from scarlett.psy.cmu.edu (SCARLETT.PSY.CMU.EDU [128.2.249.106]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 40sm44764378vws.2.2010.02.23.10.40.38 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 23 Feb 2010 10:40:38 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <64d3zvx1zi.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.2.3 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:121302 Archived-At: This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --Apple-Mail-45-880423900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yes, send-mail-function is the only delayed-init defcustom that's = autoloaded. On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:04 PM, Glenn Morris wrote: > send-mail-function's default value probably shouldn't be based on > window-system anyway, now that X and tty frames can be mixed (though I > don't know if this works on Windows/Nextstep). I think > mailclient-send-it itself should check window-system and call > sendmail-send-it if it is nil. I don't think that this would be a user-friendly solution.=20 It should be `initial-window-system', not `window-system', however. I = find that `browse-url' is not useful on remote emacs sessions via SSH. You may recall that the default value is different on GNU/Linux because = we expect users to configure their Emacs mail system explicitly (e.g., = with a working sender address), or that the `browse-url' (with a = mailto://) mechanism is less likely to produce the desired effects = (haven't tested this). Also, an older OS X version didn't correctly = run `sendmail'. The underlying reason for all of this is independent of the system - = firewalls block outgoing mail traffic, and mail servers refuse to = deliver mail from dial-up IPs. I noticed all of this because a user complained that his bug reports = didn't go through (but were silently swallowed). And no, X/TTY mixing doesn't work on NS.=20 --Apple-Mail-45-880423900 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.12 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkuEISQACgkQYotoJUVQB4L7YwCeLs7vkIKtPWeMuj7RJBf1wFxy gVkAoMy612zxalo/r7M7vDd40B2WDa+4 =jfNd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-45-880423900--