* C-i and TAB
@ 2013-02-07 15:21 Ivan Kanis
2013-02-07 16:00 ` Andreas Schwab
2013-02-07 16:44 ` Stefan Monnier
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From: Ivan Kanis @ 2013-02-07 15:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Emacs Development List
How come Emacs for X can't distinguish between C-i and TAB? I understand
why that happens on a terminal, but on X it should be possible...
--
Ivan Kanis
http://ivan.kanis.fr
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-- Henri Estienne
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* Re: C-i and TAB
2013-02-07 15:21 C-i and TAB Ivan Kanis
@ 2013-02-07 16:00 ` Andreas Schwab
2013-02-07 16:44 ` Stefan Monnier
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From: Andreas Schwab @ 2013-02-07 16:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ivan Kanis; +Cc: Emacs Development List
Ivan Kanis <banana@kanis.fr> writes:
> How come Emacs for X can't distinguish between C-i and TAB?
Because C-i and TAB are just two names for the same thing.
> I understand why that happens on a terminal, but on X it should be
> possible...
Try <tab> instead.
Andreas.
--
Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org
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* Re: C-i and TAB
2013-02-07 15:21 C-i and TAB Ivan Kanis
2013-02-07 16:00 ` Andreas Schwab
@ 2013-02-07 16:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-07 17:21 ` Ivan Kanis
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From: Stefan Monnier @ 2013-02-07 16:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ivan Kanis; +Cc: Emacs Development List
> How come Emacs for X can't distinguish between C-i and TAB? I understand
> why that happens on a terminal, but on X it should be possible...
Emacs definitely distinguished between the two.
But it has a function-key-map entry that turns `tab' (the event
generated by your TAB key) into a C-i when there's no binding for `tab'.
Stefan
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* Re: C-i and TAB
2013-02-07 16:44 ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2013-02-07 17:21 ` Ivan Kanis
2013-02-07 18:19 ` Stefan Monnier
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From: Ivan Kanis @ 2013-02-07 17:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Monnier; +Cc: Ivan Kanis, Emacs Development List
>> How come Emacs for X can't distinguish between C-i and TAB? I understand
>> why that happens on a terminal, but on X it should be possible...
>
> Emacs definitely distinguished between the two.
> But it has a function-key-map entry that turns `tab' (the event
> generated by your TAB key) into a C-i when there's no binding for `tab'.
Not in trunk:
emacs -Q
(global-set-key (kbd "C-i") 'foo)
(global-set-key (kbd "TAB") 'bar)
TAB -> Symbol's function definition is void: bar
C-i -> Symbol's function definition is void: bar
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* Re: C-i and TAB
2013-02-07 17:21 ` Ivan Kanis
@ 2013-02-07 18:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-07 18:23 ` Ivan Kanis
2013-02-07 19:47 ` Drew Adams
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From: Stefan Monnier @ 2013-02-07 18:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ivan Kanis; +Cc: Ivan Kanis, Emacs Development List
> (global-set-key (kbd "C-i") 'foo)
> (global-set-key (kbd "TAB") 'bar)
`kbd's syntax defines TAB as equivalent to C-i, so the above two
instructions bind the same key.
Try
(global-set-key [?\C-i] 'foo)
(global-set-key [tab] 'bar)
Stefan
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* Re: C-i and TAB
2013-02-07 18:19 ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2013-02-07 18:23 ` Ivan Kanis
2013-02-07 19:47 ` Drew Adams
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From: Ivan Kanis @ 2013-02-07 18:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Monnier; +Cc: Emacs Development List
>> (global-set-key (kbd "C-i") 'foo)
>> (global-set-key (kbd "TAB") 'bar)
>
> `kbd's syntax defines TAB as equivalent to C-i, so the above two
> instructions bind the same key.
>
> Try
>
> (global-set-key [?\C-i] 'foo)
> (global-set-key [tab] 'bar)
Great! Thank you.
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* RE: C-i and TAB
2013-02-07 18:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-07 18:23 ` Ivan Kanis
@ 2013-02-07 19:47 ` Drew Adams
2013-02-07 23:56 ` Xue Fuqiao
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From: Drew Adams @ 2013-02-07 19:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'Stefan Monnier', 'Ivan Kanis'
Cc: 'Ivan Kanis', 'Emacs Development List'
> > (global-set-key (kbd "C-i") 'foo)
> > (global-set-key (kbd "TAB") 'bar)
>
> `kbd's syntax defines TAB as equivalent to C-i, so the above two
> instructions bind the same key.
>
> Try
> (global-set-key [?\C-i] 'foo)
> (global-set-key [tab] 'bar)
Or just this, no?
(global-set-key (kbd "C-i") 'foo)
(global-set-key (kbd "<tab>") 'bar)
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* Re: C-i and TAB
2013-02-07 19:47 ` Drew Adams
@ 2013-02-07 23:56 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-02-08 1:35 ` Ivan Kanis
2013-02-08 2:46 ` Drew Adams
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From: Xue Fuqiao @ 2013-02-07 23:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Drew Adams
Cc: 'Emacs Development List', 'Stefan Monnier',
'Ivan Kanis', 'Ivan Kanis'
On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 11:47:34 -0800
"Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com> wrote:
> > > (global-set-key (kbd "C-i") 'foo)
> > > (global-set-key (kbd "TAB") 'bar)
> >
> > `kbd's syntax defines TAB as equivalent to C-i, so the above two
> > instructions bind the same key.
> >
> > Try
> > (global-set-key [?\C-i] 'foo)
> > (global-set-key [tab] 'bar)
>
>
> Or just this, no?
>
> (global-set-key (kbd "C-i") 'foo)
> (global-set-key (kbd "<tab>") 'bar)
Their effect should be the same.
--
Best regards, Xue Fuqiao.
http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/XueFuqiao
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* Re: C-i and TAB
2013-02-07 23:56 ` Xue Fuqiao
@ 2013-02-08 1:35 ` Ivan Kanis
2013-02-08 2:46 ` Drew Adams
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From: Ivan Kanis @ 2013-02-08 1:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Xue Fuqiao
Cc: 'Stefan Monnier', Drew Adams,
'Emacs Development List'
> On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 11:47:34 -0800
> "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com> wrote:
>
>> > > (global-set-key (kbd "C-i") 'foo)
>> > > (global-set-key (kbd "TAB") 'bar)
>> >
>> > `kbd's syntax defines TAB as equivalent to C-i, so the above two
>> > instructions bind the same key.
>> >
>> > Try
>> > (global-set-key [?\C-i] 'foo)
>> > (global-set-key [tab] 'bar)
>>
>>
>> Or just this, no?
>>
>> (global-set-key (kbd "C-i") 'foo)
>> (global-set-key (kbd "<tab>") 'bar)
>
> Their effect should be the same.
>
I like Andrew's best. I have never been a fan of the "native" keybinding
representation.
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* RE: C-i and TAB
2013-02-07 23:56 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-02-08 1:35 ` Ivan Kanis
@ 2013-02-08 2:46 ` Drew Adams
1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2013-02-08 2:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'Xue Fuqiao'
Cc: 'Emacs Development List', 'Stefan Monnier',
'Ivan Kanis', 'Ivan Kanis'
> > > > (global-set-key (kbd "C-i") 'foo)
> > > > (global-set-key (kbd "TAB") 'bar)
> > >
> > > Try
> > > (global-set-key [?\C-i] 'foo)
> > > (global-set-key [tab] 'bar)
> >
> > Or just this, no?
> > (global-set-key (kbd "C-i") 'foo)
> > (global-set-key (kbd "<tab>") 'bar)
>
> Their effect should be the same.
That was the point.
You can use `kbd' as originally attempted.
You just need to know the external representation <tab>.
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