From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: chad Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Wherein I argue for the inclusion of libnettle in Emacs 24.5 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 09:00:58 -0800 Message-ID: <81B4EFAB-E984-4A44-90F9-DD4498BC183A@gmail.com> References: <87ha8f3jt1.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87ppn2qz0f.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87y51qcace.fsf@lifelogs.com> <874n4e3rkm.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87txcdd6d0.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.1 \(1827\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1391619738 12793 80.91.229.3 (5 Feb 2014 17:02:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 17:02:18 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 05 18:02:25 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WB5rl-0005Qy-0h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2014 18:02:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60361 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WB5rk-0004Nc-Jm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2014 12:02:24 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58276) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WB5qW-0002Sq-Bg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2014 12:01:13 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WB5qQ-00045n-3h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2014 12:01:08 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pa0-x22c.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22c]:61352) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WB5qP-00045b-S8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2014 12:01:02 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id kq14so592244pab.31 for ; Wed, 05 Feb 2014 09:01:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=PtCURigJeVWyd2bI3O+m4vwvDBlGZIsE5WUXoY7FYYo=; b=hKQtH5BfxwgN+HlW3KjMOuv4Ou2+jAsoZgMWAKmdUTJCNpS0put3Qkf9bQ/woeB6QI GzTf+nA161qSRtEb8kcEmv6uWHuwfi+eKdAZziyIU9I4JGD5vQgsrtD74h39ZKzDvs9Q DZoDC54DTXBjCNpXCNafMJaLB9l+iJLMzb4pZYg8HdI321gxLSe5gfX79BK58H6T7YG3 owX8oEEIKSc6dcOSF4JDHcSNcscvvg56sI0UnlzLhgtTv0wayikNUeYTaXXEvOoZFMFM 95Jjqbptb12PCmMnYH7guKwSMEGjgn3lMQF/MFll0UR9ObfR3KpB2MSNPaA+FCWU24mM Op0w== X-Received: by 10.68.185.1 with SMTP id ey1mr3377886pbc.33.1391619660423; Wed, 05 Feb 2014 09:01:00 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from [10.0.1.37] (75-172-90-235.tukw.qwest.net. [75.172.90.235]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id jk16sm78368928pbb.34.2014.02.05.09.00.59 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 05 Feb 2014 09:00:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87txcdd6d0.fsf@lifelogs.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1827) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22c X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:169414 Archived-At: On 05 Feb 2014, at 05:41, Ted Zlatanov wrote: > qmail and Postfix are system applications that run as daemons. > Completely different from Emacs. Emacs is more like Firefox or Chrome > with their embedded Javascript engines and layout renderers, as Lars > pointed out. Those applications tend to use the platform's keychain > facilities and do the crypto work internally. Are there *any* other applications (note that I did not say servers) that use external programs for encryption? Hell, *mutt* supports the features that Lars and Ted want. So do nmh and alpine. What doesnt? ~Chad