From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Steven Huwig Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: python-mode patch Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 16:31:01 -0400 Message-ID: <8167A25C-7A9E-4A6C-9181-650C37E09ED9@acm.org> References: <17627.5883.285449.474785@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <20060820214937.48E0.SLAWOMIR.NOWACZYK.847@student.lu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1156105888 11101 80.91.229.2 (20 Aug 2006 20:31:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 20:31:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 20 22:31:26 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GEtx1-00053q-Ry for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 22:31:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GEtx1-0004zE-7W for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 16:31:19 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GEtwo-0004yn-DP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 16:31:06 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GEtwm-0004yb-Vq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 16:31:05 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GEtwm-0004yY-R1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 16:31:04 -0400 Original-Received: from [64.233.166.178] (helo=py-out-1112.google.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GEu41-0008AN-7D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 16:38:33 -0400 Original-Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id d42so1956169pyd for ; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 13:31:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:x-mailer:from; b=CfstnfgO/aglT7F2XJxpW9s/OIEANpVwloLWedzj2sJsuqlPOrjkzWm+UE6usI5V04ii+9So7rggKduBn5z40ClpOqQvCUw4iFUDux0REjyXnUikM0jwP/FD+1Z+j06kqx9xYo2O8Fbywg7Fza3IMchSU9DoHeef0ghcwyzL/+k= Original-Received: by 10.35.41.12 with SMTP id t12mr11502078pyj; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 13:31:04 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from ?10.0.1.3? ( [24.95.36.8]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 12sm94520nzn.2006.08.20.13.31.03; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 13:31:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20060820214937.48E0.SLAWOMIR.NOWACZYK.847@student.lu.se> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:58570 Archived-At: On Aug 20, 2006, at 3:53 PM, Slawomir Nowaczyk wrote: > On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 16:19:58 -0400 > Richard Stallman wrote: > > #> You don't need to add your name here, but if the patch is > accepted you'll > #> need a ChangLog entry. > #> > #> Looking at Slawomir's first message, it certainly sounds like an > #> improvement; but I do not know Python, so if there is some > drawback, I > #> would not know. > #> > #> Is there anyone here who knows Python and can advise me on > whether to > #> install this patch? > > Apparently not :( I tried the patch and it didn't seem to affect anything negatively. I have always assumed that there was some reason that the mode forced a new namespace, but perhaps that is not the case. > Therefore I do not think it is > a good idea to give up developing our version. I do use python-mode from CVS Emacs exclusively when coding Python. It works well enough as a basic mode, though the interactive portions are primitive when compared to some other Emacs modes. > Taking it into account, I would like to become a maintainer of > python-mode. I would also like to try and fix as much as possible (due > to lack of my time it may not end up being all that much, though) > before the release. It should not cause any real problems since, as I > said, nobody appears to be using the mode currently. I am interested in testing and contributing fixes to python-mode as well. Some time ago I worked on some python-complete-symbol issues, and a few weeks ago I spent some time trying to fix an issue with commands that need to start the inferior process, before giving up for lack of time. > It would be good to have unambiguous way of talking about those modes. > Does anyone have a suggestion how to avoid confusion? > > Would saying "GNU python-mode" make sense? How about "Emacs 22 python-mode?" Steven Huwig