From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jambunathan K Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Possessive apostrophe with singular nouns ending in "s" Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 23:53:27 +0530 Message-ID: <8139a1jtnk.fsf@gmail.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1330021433 6880 80.91.229.3 (23 Feb 2012 18:23:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:23:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 23 19:23:52 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1S0dKZ-0004Hk-20 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:23:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59890 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S0dKY-0006pj-8U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:23:50 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:39178) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S0dKW-0006pe-6U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:23:49 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S0dKV-0002OU-7S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:23:48 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.160.41]:38797) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S0dKV-0002OO-0P; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:23:47 -0500 Original-Received: by pbcwz17 with SMTP id wz17so1803432pbc.0 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:23:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=sBeISf+nQogmNZahzj9sPUY4O/NPclynnNIgTgzxeXw=; b=pPgs+DU39gIY++XQfOSa/NZHKyBSgNJBEledupWv8cLY0wWi2Ri2E/jczreau8KYog DeFvQm7jzpFqUFqw+j0x5c7ZIdbJUp68+PkAKeOn5v9abkRilV1ENcw+51xtdAxaLYud yIhQc1bK0Vn88x507FLUT7fZ4BO/p+S9Q5iaI= Original-Received: by 10.68.216.4 with SMTP id om4mr6124227pbc.19.1330021426039; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:23:46 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from JAMBU-NETBOOK ([115.242.164.43]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r10sm2082035pbs.12.2012.02.23.10.23.41 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:23:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:48:17 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.93 (windows-nt) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.85.160.41 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:148738 Archived-At: Glenn Morris writes: > A critical question. What is the standard form in GNU manuals for using > the possessive apostrophe with singular nouns ending in "s"? > > This is one of Emacs's most important features. > > or > > This is one of Emacs' most important features. > > Currently there are ~ 46 instances of the former in the manuals, and 63 of > the latter. I favour the former. If the "subject" is Emacs - It is Emacs'(s) manual right? - then the above controversy can altogether be avoided by dropping self-references altogether. Even if there is a need, one can use runtime etc. and still make herself understood by the reader. --