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From: "Vincent Belaïche" <vincent.b.1@hotmail.fr>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> , Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
Cc: Karl Berry <karl@freefriends.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Can't build latest emacs on MSW + CRLF display issue
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 04:44:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <80haebdf8w.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)

Hello Glenn,

> From: rgm@gnu.org
> To: eliz@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: Can't build latest emacs on MSW + CRLF display issue
> Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 21:46:03 -0400
> CC: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> 
> I'm not trying to be difficult here, I really just don't understand
> your logic.
> 
> Reasons to remove the old method:
> 1) It's unsupported and out-of-date (eg I know it doesn't build all the
> manuals. Minor but still a bug.).
> 
> 2) There's no need to have two separate methods to build Emacs on
> MS Windows.
> 
> 3) The new method is obviously preferable since it is the same method
> used on all other platforms (except MS DOS).
> 
> Even if 1) changes (and it shows no sign of doing so), 2) and 3) never will.
> 
> 
> On the other hand, I can't think of a single reason to _not_ remove it.
> 
> If someone turns up and wants to do 1), it will be the least of their
> problems to first revert the commit that removed the old method. (But
> we should not let them anyway, because of 2 and 3.)
> 
> 
> (BTW, I suggest at least renaming nt/INSTALL to nt/INSTALL.OLD, and
> INSTALL.MSYS to INSTALL.)
> 

Not sure whether this email above was addressed to me or to Eli. Sorry
if I did something wrong with adding the user's confirmation in the
configure.bat.

Is that your concern ?

I was just trying to stick better to your original proposal (big fat
warning + user's confirmation to go on at his/her own risks). Maybe I
misinterpreted what you suggested, as I had not followed the full
discussion on building for MSW.


   Vincent.

PS-1: Personnally I don't mind if the .bat file is removed. But at least
keeing it has the advantage that if a user --- like me --- used his/her
legacy own MSDOS script to do all the job of

- update the source
- configure PATH for the build to work properly
- launch configure.bat with all the wanted options and then make

then this user will receive a clear warning why this old automated way
won't work, so he/she can easily update his script (or rather rewrite it
fully as a BASH script) to use the new build method. And therefore this
user will be less likely to come to this forum like I did and bother
everyone with questions.

PS-2: Your suggestion to rename the INSTALL files is excellent.



             reply	other threads:[~2013-08-27  2:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-27  2:44 Vincent Belaïche [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-08-27  2:28 Can't build latest emacs on MSW + CRLF display issue Vincent Belaïche
2013-08-26  6:06 Vincent Belaïche
2013-08-26 13:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-25 18:54 Vincent Belaïche
2013-08-25 19:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-25 11:52 Vincent Belaïche
2013-08-25 15:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-25 19:00   ` Glenn Morris
2013-08-25 19:27     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-25 19:40       ` Glenn Morris
2013-08-25 20:18         ` Vincent Belaïche
2013-08-25 20:36         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-27  1:46           ` Glenn Morris
2013-08-27 15:20             ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-27 18:54               ` Glenn Morris
2013-08-27 19:11                 ` Eli Zaretskii

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