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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:262404 Archived-At: > To my mind, people running the bleeding edge (i.e. master) also > implicitly agree to test out new feature changes before they are > released. So here's a suggestion: perhaps we should think about > sometimes carrying out time-boxed experiments on the master branch in > controversial cases. For example: we add this keybinding now, to be > revisited in 14/21/30 days and then a final discussion is taken to keep > or revert it once people have gotten some experience with it. I tried that once when I wanted people to test whether horizontal scroll bars work on their machines. It didn't take long to read the first "gentle" request on this list about how to switch them off ... martin