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From: Daniel Mendler <mail@daniel-mendler.de>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Gregory Heytings <gregory@heytings.org>,
	Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>,
	"emacs-devel@gnu.org" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>,
	Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] `completing-read`: Add `group-function` support to completion metadata (REVISED PATCH VERSION 4)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2021 21:11:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <809793ed-6228-c4e4-a3f9-62f12cbd8654@daniel-mendler.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvpmxzwxgb.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

On 5/9/21 8:56 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> I think in the case of the ucs-char-names completion-table, the group
> sorting option we propose (alphabetical) is not really specific to the
> completion table, so I don't see the point of putting the control (and
> work) in the hands of the completion-table.

Yes, and I don't think there many sensible options on how you want to
sort the groups after all. Therefore it is questionable if the
generalization of the `group-function` is needed. Either one uses the
natural candidate order to determine the group order or one sorts the
groups alphabetically.

In the case of vertical UIs like Ivy, Selectrum and Vertico I prefer to
have the candidate order determine the group order, since this ensures
that the most likely candidate occurs first.

In the case of the default completion UI it may be more reasonable to
always sort the groups alphabetically, such that the overall view is
more predictable.

However if it turns out that we need the generality in the end it may be
better to include the possibility right away as I proposed in my last patch.

Daniel



  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-09 19:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-25 13:32 [PATCH] `completing-read`: Add `group-function` support to completion metadata Daniel Mendler
2021-04-25 19:35 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-25 19:47   ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-25 21:50     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-25 22:10       ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-25 22:40         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-25 22:58           ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-26  4:51             ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-04-27 16:53               ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-28  6:18                 ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-04-25 23:33           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-26 10:01             ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-26 13:50               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-27  1:46             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-27  1:59               ` tumashu
2021-04-27  2:45                 ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-27 15:47                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-27  3:41               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-28  0:08                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-28  3:21                   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-25 19:38 ` [PATCH] `completing-read`: Add `group-function` support to completion metadata (REVISED PATCH) Daniel Mendler
2021-04-25 20:45   ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-25 21:26     ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-29 16:20   ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-29 16:52     ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-29 17:07     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-29 17:13       ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-29 22:54         ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-29 23:55           ` [PATCH] `completing-read`: Add `group-function` support to completion metadata (REVISED PATCH VERSION 2) Daniel Mendler
2021-04-30  9:00             ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-30 17:01               ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-30 18:11                 ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-30 18:30                   ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-01 19:57                     ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-02  0:43                       ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-02  7:07                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-02 11:01                           ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-30 16:51             ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-30 18:13               ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-01 19:54                 ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-02  0:32                   ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-02 21:38                     ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-07 17:03                       ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-07 17:55                         ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-08  6:24                           ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-08  8:45                             ` [PATCH] `completing-read`: Add `group-function` support to completion metadata (REVISED PATCH VERSION 4) Daniel Mendler
2021-05-08  9:10                               ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-09 17:59                                 ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-09 18:50                                   ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-09 18:56                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-05-09 19:11                                       ` Daniel Mendler [this message]
2021-05-10 20:47                                     ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-11  7:51                                       ` [PATCH] `completing-read`: Add `group-function` support to completion metadata (REVISED PATCH VERSION 5) Daniel Mendler
2021-05-11 17:59                                         ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-08 13:15                         ` [PATCH] `completing-read`: Add `group-function` support to completion metadata (REVISED PATCH VERSION 2) Stefan Monnier
2021-05-09 18:05                           ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-09 18:37                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-11 18:06                               ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-11 18:44                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-11 18:58                                   ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-11 19:22                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-11 19:46                                       ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-11 19:59                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-11 20:30                                           ` [PATCH] `completing-read`: Add `group-function` support to completion metadata (REVISED PATCH VERSION 6) Daniel Mendler
2021-05-13 10:32                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-13 11:45                                               ` [PATCH] `completing-read`: Add `group-function` support to completion metadata (REVISED PATCH VERSION 7) Daniel Mendler
2021-05-20  9:39                                                 ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-20 17:53                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-20 18:51                                                     ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-29 17:09     ` [PATCH] `completing-read`: Add `group-function` support to completion metadata (REVISED PATCH) Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-29 17:16       ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-29 17:55         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-29 18:31           ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-04-29 20:25             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-29 22:15               ` Drew Adams
2021-04-29 22:28                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-29 23:31                   ` Drew Adams
2021-04-29 19:21           ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-02 14:29   ` [PATCH] `completing-read`: Add `group-function` support to completion metadata (REVISED PATCH VERSION 3) Daniel Mendler
2021-05-02 21:49     ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-03 14:40       ` Daniel Mendler

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