From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Reitter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: VC shows stderr in target buffer Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 08:27:30 +0100 Message-ID: <803EDF5A-B38E-491A-B2B9-49822C0A5E53@gmail.com> References: <4DBD5643-5AC0-4449-8A4E-B680D15ECCAB@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1207380473 16232 80.91.229.12 (5 Apr 2008 07:27:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 07:27:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs- devel To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 05 09:28:25 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Ji2p5-0008E1-IL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 Apr 2008 09:28:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ji2oS-0000Zh-Ln for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 Apr 2008 03:27:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ji2oO-0000ZZ-5k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Apr 2008 03:27:40 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ji2oN-0000ZN-DL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Apr 2008 03:27:39 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ji2oN-0000ZK-8O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Apr 2008 03:27:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ji2oN-0005pm-0p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Apr 2008 03:27:39 -0400 Original-Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.155]) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ji2oL-0002eY-AC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Apr 2008 03:27:37 -0400 Original-Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id d23so573928fga.30 for ; Sat, 05 Apr 2008 00:27:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=yNT3vP2bbd08PbYuhYwvyDwSBB4iCPL48DBqyi/4rsE=; b=oiUduT4GOU6fQ6I/R1yG8jG27msapcM/928PSnCsYBp5QqqaqqhmsPg5jkLljQfp35rMsBrucY7SkNKTsRXBOIwiqu9ccdiSosSpqU75DKJWctaXobKWmXkI8zri3CYlNvkZ5K3q5UfqAKg2m5pRb0ERfSkARfeeRKF4br5tEJ0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer; b=CQgn9H/fiCov/qU8grQx+C06LINuXp/5jBx7qE4hu6sq+nNVGKIkXZE9GcJaao4yqnSiXdKbb5m7sUXTtNy/Wbp9B4771rksnBferLwS9D65s9AYONiq+VOJWM0p4okAXP5rc0DFhiXDeeheUbR/zodOrov7ApHa4H6SkzsGkpg= Original-Received: by 10.78.81.2 with SMTP id e2mr6266601hub.13.1207380453722; Sat, 05 Apr 2008 00:27:33 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from scarlett.lan ( [89.241.128.168]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 34sm6212273nfu.4.2008.04.05.00.27.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 05 Apr 2008 00:27:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) X-detected-kernel: by mx20.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:94390 Archived-At: On 4 Apr 2008, at 15:09, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > It seems better in the *vc-diff* buffer where the user will be sure to > see it than in the echo area where it'll be overwritten soon after > (especially for multi-line messages). When you do C-x C-s and the file can't be written, do you insert an error message into the buffer? When you handle an exception signalled anywhere, do you insert an error message into the buffer or do you show it in the echo area? My request was about consistency. It's probably important to know I would do things like C-x C-v = in order to do something else with the resulting diff than to just read the output. Thus, warnings (and they are just warnings!) are annoying when they're shown in the buffer. > Any reason why you can't fix the problem so that CVS doesn't complain? Sure, I can fix my problem, but that doesn't mean it's right to mix error messages and actual output...