From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eli Zaretskii" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Info-scroll-prefer-subnodes default in Emacs. Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 07:12:41 +0300 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <8011-Tue24Jun2003071241+0300-eliz@elta.co.il> References: <200306200119.h5K1Jic11729@eel.dms.auburn.edu> <200306240255.h5O2t3T14984@eel.dms.auburn.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1056428081 2392 80.91.224.249 (24 Jun 2003 04:14:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 04:14:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 24 06:14:39 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19UfCB-0000bf-00 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 2003 06:14:15 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19UfFY-0002fe-00 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 2003 06:17:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19UfBv-0001Kw-Tx for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2003 00:13:59 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19UfBc-0001GF-Ef for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2003 00:13:40 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19UfBa-0001C8-Nx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2003 00:13:39 -0400 Original-Received: from aragorn.inter.net.il ([192.114.186.23]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19UfBY-0000yb-S8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2003 00:13:37 -0400 Original-Received: from zaretsky (tony08-235-202.inter.net.il [80.230.235.202] (may be forged)) by aragorn.inter.net.il (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.3.5-GR) with ESMTP id AYA04756; Tue, 24 Jun 2003 07:13:20 +0300 (IDT) Original-To: teirllm@dms.auburn.edu X-Mailer: emacs 21.3.50 (via feedmail 8 I) and Blat ver 1.8.9 In-reply-to: <200306240255.h5O2t3T14984@eel.dms.auburn.edu> (message from Luc Teirlinck on Mon, 23 Jun 2003 21:55:03 -0500 (CDT)) Original-cc: karl@freefriends.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:15203 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:15203 > Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 21:55:03 -0500 (CDT) > From: Luc Teirlinck > > With Info-scroll-prefer-subnodes set to nil or in the stand-alone > Info, we first scroll through the index and then go to > (emacs)Shell Commands in Dired. It would be more consistent with the > "browse through everything consecutively as if it were one single > document" philosophy if we went to the next node, (emacs)Option Index > instead. An index is just a giant menu, as far as the Info readers are concerned. So they behave as they do with menus; they don't have any special treatment for indices. > There are related problems. In Emacs Info, `]' and `[' behave as > usual in Indices. In the stand-alone version, they do not. (Just try > to "browse" through the various Emacs manual indices using `]' and `[' > in the stand-alone Info.) What's wrong with `]' and `[' in the stand-alone Info when you are in an index? > How do we determine reliably whether or not a node is an Index? I don't think you can do that in any way except by looking at the node's name. And that's not very reliable, although in many cases it could do the job.