From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Brinkhoff Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs is very special regarding UIs Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2020 15:19:15 +0000 Organization: nocrew Message-ID: <7wtuw5d5ho.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> References: <87eenc1du2.fsf@blind.guru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20997"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.2 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:EKE6A5ePwXwq5N+QsO0LhUuy9wQ= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 10 17:20:02 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kGOMk-0005NH-0e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 17:20:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50546 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGOMj-0001ov-3d for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 11:20:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39374) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGOM8-0001P7-OX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 11:19:24 -0400 Original-Received: from static.214.254.202.116.clients.your-server.de ([116.202.254.214]:39780 helo=ciao.gmane.io) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGOM7-0007Sf-Cf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 11:19:24 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kGOM4-0004Rp-0d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 17:19:20 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/10 08:40:33 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -15 X-Spam_score: -1.6 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255013 Archived-At: Mario Lang wrote: > Emacs works with graphical toolkits on all major platforms, but also > offers a almost-feature-complete text interface. Emacs is a manifestation of the ITS user interfaces. They all relied on text because that's all that was available back then. They also used control characters, Altmode/Escape/Meta, and prefix arguments. > I am seeing Emacs as a platform to write "apps" in Emacs Lisp. In this sense, Emacs is a Lisp machine. Not surprisingly, those came from the same place as ITS: the MIT AI Lab.