From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lars Brinkhoff Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Oldest Emacs alive Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2018 09:47:58 +0000 Organization: nocrew Message-ID: <7wbmbqhstt.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> References: <7wzhzcm8u8.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> <147d88c2-6e1b-3546-25b3-e35b9ac21b01@cs.ucla.edu> <7w7emgm2wx.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1530524870 4190 195.159.176.226 (2 Jul 2018 09:47:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 09:47:50 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.2 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 02 11:47:46 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fZvQv-0000y9-Hx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Jul 2018 11:47:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59723 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fZvT2-0004Wk-Nf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Jul 2018 05:49:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53335) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fZvRG-0003gX-21 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jul 2018 05:48:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fZvRB-0005fA-5a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jul 2018 05:48:06 -0400 Original-Received: from junk.nocrew.org ([51.15.56.219]:33580) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fZvRA-0005eD-UW; Mon, 02 Jul 2018 05:48:01 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=junk.nocrew.org) by junk.nocrew.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fZvR8-00086b-TP; Mon, 02 Jul 2018 09:47:58 +0000 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Mon, 02 Jul 2018 03:32:43 -0400") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 51.15.56.219 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:226885 Archived-At: Richard Stallman wrote: >> I don't think there was a TECO package for sending email in 1976. :-) >> Recall that EMACS just got started earlier that year. > > ISTR that Rmail predated EMACS, and I expect I didn't wait long after > EMACS was good enough to edit with to arrange to run Rmail in EMACS. Yes, I see you are right. I opened EMACS' purified TECO file and indeed there are references to Rmail: "Temporarily loads up :EJ version of Rmail and runs in own environment." Curiosly, there is no M-X extended commands facility in this early EMACS. You have to type (to get a TECO minibuffer) and then MM Rmail. Unfortunately, I don't have the RMAIL file, so I get ".TECO.;DSK:[RMAX] > FILE NOT FOUND?" By the way, if anyone wants to try this, let me know in private email. Be prepared to compile a SUPDUP client.