From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Brinkhoff Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Lisp Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 07:15:14 +0000 Organization: nocrew Message-ID: <7w8sfrj0xp.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> References: <20200709084955.GA1320@tuxteam.de> <87mu48hv8c.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22485"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.2 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:XLBqLoluL7krXpV9meaUZGIrkgg= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 10 09:16:12 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jtnGV-0005lA-NQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 09:16:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54888 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jtnGU-00051L-NV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 03:16:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43858) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jtnFj-0004Jj-15 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 03:15:23 -0400 Original-Received: from static.214.254.202.116.clients.your-server.de ([116.202.254.214]:59826 helo=ciao.gmane.io) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jtnFh-0004Iu-HR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 03:15:22 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jtnFe-0004uo-Tb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 09:15:18 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/07/10 02:24:21 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -8 X-Spam_score: -0.9 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:252811 Archived-At: Mingde (Matthew) Zeng wrote: > RMS wrote: >> I was on the team that developed the Lisp Machine operating system, >> but that is not why I love Lisp. It's the other way around: I did >> that because I love Lisp. > > So, why did you love Lisp in the first place? ;-) Not to answer for RMS', but to add a bit of historical context. Emacs, Lisp, and the Lisp Machine all came from the MIT AI lab. The predecessor to the lispm was Maclisp running on ITS, which also hosted the TECO editor used to build the first Emacs. Many AI researchers and ITS hackers used Maclisp, and many prominent Lisp features first saw the light of day here.