From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Brinkhoff Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Opening Up More Keymaps Re: Standardizing more key bindings? Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2020 08:59:57 +0000 Organization: nocrew Message-ID: <7w5z7nrape.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> References: <24436.53239.437810.270641@retriever.mtv.corp.google.com> <24436.58187.698211.262192@retriever.mtv.corp.google.com> <83362yisgn.fsf@gnu.org> <83y2kpf74o.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30343"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.2 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:IxLN+xiKUAfnXEHCwULJhuYbl8w= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 06 11:01:31 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kPiqg-0007mw-RF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 06 Oct 2020 11:01:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37438 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kPiqf-0006f5-T1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 06 Oct 2020 05:01:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59354) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kPipK-00061O-Vj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Oct 2020 05:00:06 -0400 Original-Received: from static.214.254.202.116.clients.your-server.de ([116.202.254.214]:53008 helo=ciao.gmane.io) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kPipJ-0005Ca-H9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Oct 2020 05:00:06 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kPipF-0006K4-JG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Oct 2020 11:00:01 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/06 05:00:01 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:257160 Archived-At: Richard Stallman wrote: > > Might be worth noting that the behaviour of C-z also dates back to the > > Lisp Machines where it meant to go back to top-level > > I am pretty sure it worked on ITS in 1976. It certainly did. ITS programs can use superimage input mode to intercept ^Z, but Emacs didn't do that in 1976 or any other year as far as I can tell. The Unix meaning of ^Z to suspend the current process group also comes from ITS. (This is not a comment on whether Emacs should do something different about C-z now.)