From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9?= Kyllingstad Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: window groups Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 15:21:03 +0200 Message-ID: <7id64pts.fsf@smtpserver.esmertec.com> References: <483D4E9A.9020001@gmx.at> <87wsldgkgz.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87abi9j57j.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87ve0wbxhb.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <874p8gkafs.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <483F4216.9060606@emf.net> <483FA7C6.7060408@gmx.at> <48402E69.4000003@emf.net> <48411600.3000309@gmx.at> <4841545B.50004@gmx.at> <4841893F.6040402@emf.net> <4841D347.3030908@gmx.at> <48436DD8.4060107@emf.net> <4843BEB1.9020900@gmx.at> <484508B0.9070007@gmx.at> <48452A6F.9080507@gmx.at> <87zlq2ivj0.fsf@escher.local.home> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1212499301 19206 80.91.229.12 (3 Jun 2008 13:21:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 13:21:41 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 03 15:22:22 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K3WSi-0000jZ-B9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 15:22:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48910 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K3WRv-0004XB-Qb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 09:21:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K3WRs-0004Wh-56 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 09:21:12 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K3WRr-0004WM-Ei for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 09:21:11 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=53832 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K3WRr-0004WJ-Br for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 09:21:11 -0400 Original-Received: from mail2.esmertec.com ([212.249.37.45]:44926 helo=postie.esmertec.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K3WRr-00088l-M0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 09:21:11 -0400 Original-Received: by postie.esmertec.com (Postfix, from userid 1002) id D9ECADEEF; Tue, 3 Jun 2008 15:21:09 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail.esmertec.com (unknown [10.10.10.10]) by postie.esmertec.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67BEDDED2 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2008 15:21:09 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from BARBUDA ([10.10.9.60]) by mail.esmertec.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 3 Jun 2008 15:21:09 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87zlq2ivj0.fsf@escher.local.home> (Stephen Berman's message of "Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:54:11 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1007 (Gnus v5.10.7) XEmacs/21.4.19 (windows-nt) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jun 2008 13:21:09.0365 (UTC) FILETIME=[AFA74250:01C8C57C] X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:98297 Archived-At: * Stephen Berman: > On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:26:39 +0200 martin rudalics > wrote: > =20 > >> It doesn't even handle the case where you have 2 windows in a frame > >> and you invoke help. Instead of burying the help buffer it closes t= he > >> window. Thank you view mode. > >> > >> Ie, in Emacs 22.2 -Q: C-x 3 C-h f i f RET C-x o q gives me a one > >> window configuration, and in an older emacs session often even chang= es > >> the buffer displayed in that window. It feels like it goes out of it= s > >> way to disrupt my work. > > > > This should work with Emacs 23. Can someone try? > =20 > Works for me in GNU Emacs 23.0.60.9 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version > 2.12.0) of 2008-05-29 on escher. Sweet. Thank you Martin! That was one thing that has annoyed me since switching from XEmacs. I als= o miss the compact disiplay of hyper-apropos bound to C-h a in XEmacs. Her= e is an example as was recently asked for: Apropos search for: "upcase" * =3D command (M-x) or user-variable. a =3D autoloaded, b =3D byte-compiled, i =3D internal, l =3D lambda, m =3D= macro. Functions and Macros: b cl-upcase-arg =20 a* dired-upcase - Rename all marked (or next ARG) files= to upper case. i upcase - Convert STRING-OR-CHAR to upper case = and return that. i upcase-initials - Convert the initial of each word in S= TRING-OR-CHAR to upper case. i* upcase-initials-region - Upcase the initial of each word in th= e region. i* upcase-region - Convert the region to upper case. In= programs, wants two arguments. b* upcase-region-or-word - Upcase the selected region or the fol= lowing word (or ARG words). i* upcase-word - Convert following word (or COUNT word= s) to upper case, moving over. b* wdired-upcase-word - Wdired version of `upcase-word'. Variables and Constants: byte-upcase =20 ---end-of-XEmacs-output--- Compare with M-x apropos on GNU Emacs 22.2: If moving the mouse over text changes the text's color, you can click mouse-2 (second button from right) on that text to get more information. In this buffer, go to the name of the command, or function, or variable, and type RET to get full documentation. byte-upcase Variable: (not documented) Plist: risky-local-variable emacs19-opcode byte-opcode-invert dired-upcase Command: Rename all marked (or next ARG) files to upper case. Plist: autoload event-symbol-element-mask event-symbol-elements modifie= r-cache get-upcase-table Function: Return the upcase table of CASE-TABLE. set-upcase-syntax Function: Make character UC an upcase of character LC. upcase Function: Convert argument to upper case and return that. Plist: event-symbol-element-mask event-symbol-elements modifier-cache b= yte-compile byte-opcode side-effect-free upcase-initials Function: Convert the initial of each word in the argument to upper cas= e. upcase-initials-region Command: Upcase the initial of each word in the region. Plist: event-symbol-element-mask event-symbol-elements modifier-cache upcase-region Command: Convert the region to upper case. In programs, wants two argu= ments. Plist: disabled event-symbol-element-mask event-symbol-elements modifie= r-cache upcase-word Command: Convert following word (or ARG words) to upper case, moving ov= er. Plist: event-symbol-element-mask event-symbol-elements modifier-cache wdired-upcase-word Command: WDired version of `upcase-word'. Plist: event-symbol-element-mask event-symbol-elements modifier-cache ---end-of-GNU-Emacs-output--- I find the tabular format of XEmacs easier to parse. -- Ren=E9