From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: Repurpose one key and reserve it for third-party packages Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2021 21:00:58 +0000 Message-ID: <7e12c1c3c15d0bc931e3@heytings.org> References: <7ef75c33936136eb3a20@heytings.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10615"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ulrich Mueller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 09 00:21:52 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l9Fqq-0002fZ-9i for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2021 00:21:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50804 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9Fqp-00062j-BP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 18:21:51 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58114) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9Deh-0003RX-Ma for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 16:01:11 -0500 Original-Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:42310) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9DeZ-0003xt-DZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 16:01:11 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20210101; t=1612818058; bh=79oKJlFzyas6E89Qs9S+IE8UvtadOz/NzFcvC6wtmbE=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=heuf86a2PiWdgoLMHoiQGQ8FDOjubzSZt0sti1/86RM5QqZ294vbzOvcm92hIwD+e tAI9IzNZ9qFmkIIoiCJeHLTY2e74PWyrk3tEt6Fl6ghU1n8PeovjYETH90ft3PcoOn 412PYAmbaWpUt51AklFdn3JDfolOi8w5h4dEhY8OcUXglmt5ydRVhPWhzc3FH+b1po xrj6o5Cx7Qn3lILBLuU/Hrsz3aYwiSQZD0WwXX1B4f+2WGGDJCmtLjHxenXQmpAAo4 LBpN0CpVO0MjLV4ZmihcIgt2krymaRhgzGe1v7PjgVveeer+4NOuGr59rX1BOyeBJO rzYMl3wfjxv+A== In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.142.160.155; envelope-from=gregory@heytings.org; helo=heytings.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:264187 Archived-At: >> It is proposed to repurpose one key, and to reserve it in the key >> binding conventions for third-party packages. The keys that could be >> reserved for that purpose are: >> >> Option 1. C-z, with a single exception: "C-z C-z" would be bound to >> "suspend-frame" > > Please don't. C-z is bound to "suspend" since a very long time (it's > even mentioned in Craig Finseth's book), and it is one of the few keys > that has an universal meaning on the tty in Unix like systems, across > applications. > > Also, it would be a large pain to use anything other than a single key > for this function. > Do you really mean that it is "a large pain" to type "C-z C-z" (three keypresses) instead of "C-z" (two keypresses)? For something you don't do frequently?