From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Mathias Dahl" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Enabling Transient Mark Mode by default Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:56:09 +0100 Message-ID: <7dbe73ed0802200156s68431680tce0ae5b59037edec@mail.gmail.com> References: <87myq4saw1.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <200802151711.m1FHB3Y3008798@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <200802171658.m1HGwQ4h011067@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <20080219085231.GA1032@muc.de> <200802190938.m1J9ccVg016565@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <20080219190127.GA1106@muc.de> <877ih0o9dx.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <7dbe73ed0802191545p3ff130came6223617e43c8466@mail.gmail.com> <47BB6B13.9030804@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1203501498 31468 80.91.229.12 (20 Feb 2008 09:58:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:58:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, juri@jurta.org, Dan Nicolaescu , storm@cua.dk, Alan Mackenzie , Miles Bader To: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 20 10:58:41 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JRlik-0007pO-SI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:58:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JRliF-00026b-S7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 04:58:04 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JRlgX-0000zW-IM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 04:56:18 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JRlgT-0000xI-Qa for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 04:56:16 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JRlgR-0000wL-Oi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 04:56:12 -0500 Original-Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.180]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JRlgR-0005K5-1q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 04:56:11 -0500 Original-Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k34so4130220wah.10 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 01:56:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=ZBn24/MUsSIZ/27IAczlVX7iP05KFemjUrXz3s5RxjQ=; b=WKmnzs/ypS7ex/+zw0n1WubkdwqL3uxrSGzlFuVwDBTiwaFxWYf1GPQeN6dm0ZdE5NmNoPWpfTduv2VrENffPgJZtLG+ymEgs9Nfq28+ANYBye/1kTap5pXP0UV6rDT4anZau8d5QbmrOdAjb2qqGxqO6AXptkpZoXLyasR3VPI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=LdGsdFl1r8Y64CSOpByj8jZxpdWIx4O1HK69yGzkVwbpIInphx1Abmk3nH/fAthhzrA8gHM0I3/NOO2oP3lBV0k1MSnBDThr2q4enwY9exPtxkHOKU1eYxZt37/IUTcCLc9aBzP0Lpa5wAbIx7pWF0ZYmgqTjKRoAqXFXxy8Ve8= Original-Received: by 10.114.177.1 with SMTP id z1mr4968205wae.144.1203501369254; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 01:56:09 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.114.147.8 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 01:56:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <47BB6B13.9030804@gmail.com> Content-Disposition: inline X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:89667 Archived-At: > Don't we all think that new users probably want the highlight the way > cua-mode does it? Wrong list to ask that question, Lennart :) I would guess most here think no because cua-mode "mess up", if you allow me to use such strong words, many classic Emacs bindings. A friend of mine who has started to use Emacs recently gets problems quite often when I show some cool Emacs feature, just because of the cua-bindings. I am sure one can use cua-mode without any problem but that requires a bit of manual reading. However, what I think works quite well for a beginner, although I do not use it myself anymore, is pc-selection-mode. IMHO it does not "mess up" anything. Using shift + the arrow keys to select a region is quite common on most applications even under GNU/Linux. But I am sure this has been discussed before here so maybe I shouldn't have brought it up again...