paste when cursor is in the fringe

paste when cursor is in the fringe

[Klaus Zeitler]

I noticed that I can't paste into a line when the cursor is in the fringe,
i.e. when the line is filled up to the last column.

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Re: paste when cursor is in the fringe

[Nick Roberts]

 > I noticed that I can't paste into a line when the cursor is in the fringe,
 > i.e. when the line is filled up to the last column.

What does that mean?  C-y (yank), menubar->edit->paste (x-clipboard-yank),
mouse-2 (mouse-yank-at-click)...?  I can do the first two but not the last
(because mouse-2 isn't defined in the fringe) and it would be odd to click
on it anyway.

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Re: paste when cursor is in the fringe

[Klaus Zeitler]

>>>>> "Nick" == Nick Roberts <nickrob@snap.net.nz> writes:
    Nick> 
    Nick> What does that mean?  C-y (yank), menubar->edit->paste
    Nick> (x-clipboard-yank), mouse-2 (mouse-yank-at-click)...?

Sorry, I meant mouse-2. I noticed that when I tried a copy and paste from
another application. When I already use the mouse for cut or copy, I also
use it to paste.

    Nick> I can do the first two but not the last (because mouse-2 isn't
    Nick> defined in the fringe) and it would be odd to click on it anyway.

Why is that odd. I think it'd be nice, if one could use mouse-2 iff the cursor
is in the fringe (though I don't know if it's easy to implement).



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Re: paste when cursor is in the fringe

[Mathias Dahl]

>     Nick> I can do the first two but not the last (because mouse-2 isn't
>     Nick> defined in the fringe) and it would be odd to click on it anyway.
>
> Why is that odd. I think it'd be nice, if one could use mouse-2 iff the cursor
> is in the fringe (though I don't know if it's easy to implement).

FYI I just bound mouse-2 on the fringe (using M-x local-set-key) to
mouse-yank-at-click, and it seemed to work OK.

Re: paste when cursor is in the fringe

[Nick Roberts]

Mathias Dahl writes:
 > >     Nick> I can do the first two but not the last (because mouse-2 isn't
 > >     Nick> defined in the fringe) and it would be odd to click on it anyway.
 > >
 > > Why is that odd. I think it'd be nice, if one could use mouse-2 iff the cursor
 > > is in the fringe (though I don't know if it's easy to implement).

I think this feature would rarely be needed and it seems a bit unintuitive as
the fringe isn't part of the text area.  A different possibility is to bind
mouse-1 to toggle-truncate-lines when a truncation/continuation fringe
indicator is present.

 > FYI I just bound mouse-2 on the fringe (using M-x local-set-key) to
 > mouse-yank-at-click, and it seemed to work OK.

I imagine in this case it would work even if the cursor wasn't in the
margin.


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Re: paste when cursor is in the fringe

[Klaus Zeitler]

>>>>> "Nick" == Nick Roberts <nickrob@snap.net.nz> writes:
    Nick> 
    Nick> I think this feature would rarely be needed and it seems a bit

Agreed for people who rarely use the mouse for cut and paste (I've been using
emacs with fringes for quite some time and so far hadn't noticed it).
But I've seen quite a few users who do almost everything with the mouse.

    Nick> unintuitive as the fringe isn't part of the text area.  A different
    Nick> possibility is to bind mouse-1 to toggle-truncate-lines when a
    Nick> truncation/continuation fringe indicator is present.

Interesting idea, but I don't think mouse-1 would be a good choice.

    >> FYI I just bound mouse-2 on the fringe (using M-x local-set-key) to
    >> mouse-yank-at-click, and it seemed to work OK.

Nice, hadn't known that it was so easy. In emacs you learn something new
every day. Thanks for the hint. I've now defined in my .emacs.el:
(global-set-key [right-fringe mouse-2] 'mouse-yank-at-click)

    Nick> I imagine in this case it would work even if the cursor wasn't in the
    Nick> margin.

Yes, but this is consistent with mouse-1 (mouse-set-point), i.e. mouse-1
moves point to the end of the current line and mouse-2 pastes there.

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Re: paste when cursor is in the fringe

[Richard Stallman]

    FYI I just bound mouse-2 on the fringe (using M-x local-set-key) to
    mouse-yank-at-click, and it seemed to work OK.

If that simple fix solves the problem reliably, let's install it.

Does anyone see a reason NOT to install it?

Re: paste when cursor is in the fringe

[Stefan Monnier]

>     FYI I just bound mouse-2 on the fringe (using M-x local-set-key) to
>     mouse-yank-at-click, and it seemed to work OK.

> If that simple fix solves the problem reliably, let's install it.
> Does anyone see a reason NOT to install it?

I don't see a reason not to do it, but if we do install it, I think we
should not use

    (global-set-key [fringe mouse-2] 'mouse-yank-at-click)
but
    (global-set-key [fringe mouse-2] [mouse-2])

instead.


        Stefan

RE: paste when cursor is in the fringe

[Drew Adams]

    >     FYI I just bound mouse-2 on the fringe (using M-x 
    >     local-set-key) to
    >     mouse-yank-at-click, and it seemed to work OK.
        
    I don't see a reason not to do it, but if we do install it,
    I think we should not use
    (global-set-key [fringe mouse-2] 'mouse-yank-at-click)
    but (global-set-key [fringe mouse-2] [mouse-2]) instead.

Seconded.

Re: paste when cursor is in the fringe

[Mathias Dahl]

> I don't see a reason not to do it, but if we do install it, I think we
> should not use
>
>     (global-set-key [fringe mouse-2] 'mouse-yank-at-click)
> but
>     (global-set-key [fringe mouse-2] [mouse-2])
>
> instead.

Just out of curiosity, what is the difference between the two?

Re: paste when cursor is in the fringe

[Richard Stallman]

    I don't see a reason not to do it, but if we do install it, I think we
    should not use

	(global-set-key [fringe mouse-2] 'mouse-yank-at-click)
    but
	(global-set-key [fringe mouse-2] [mouse-2])

    instead.

Good idea.  Would you please install it?

Re: paste when cursor is in the fringe

[Stefan Monnier]

>     I don't see a reason not to do it, but if we do install it, I think we
>     should not use

> 	(global-set-key [fringe mouse-2] 'mouse-yank-at-click)
>     but
> 	(global-set-key [fringe mouse-2] [mouse-2])

>     instead.

> Good idea.  Would you please install it?

Done,


        Stefan

Re: paste when cursor is in the fringe

[monnier]

> I noticed that I can't paste into a line when the cursor is in the fringe,
> i.e. when the line is filled up to the last column.

Set mouse-yank-at-point to t and be happy ever after.

I don't like mouse-yank-at-point to be nil, mostly because I'm never
completely sure exactly where my mouse is pointing, so I often get
off-by-one errors.  Maybe down-mouse-2 should be bound to a function that
highlights the point at which the mouse-yank-at-click will insert the text.


        Stefan

RE: paste when cursor is in the fringe

[Drew Adams]

    Maybe down-mouse-2 should be bound to a function that
    highlights the point at which the mouse-yank-at-click will 
    insert the text.
    
Good idea. I do that now.

Re: paste when cursor is in the fringe

[Richard Stallman]

	Maybe down-mouse-2 should be bound to a function that
	highlights the point at which the mouse-yank-at-click will 
	insert the text.

    Good idea. I do that now.

Would someone who can contribute code like to try implementing this?

RE: paste when cursor is in the fringe

[Drew Adams]

    	Maybe down-mouse-2 should be bound to a function that
    	highlights the point at which the mouse-yank-at-click will
    	insert the text.

    Would someone who can contribute code like to try implementing this?

Can I suggest that it would be good if the highlight followed the mouse, in
the case where you:

1. Press and hold mouse-2.
2. Move (drag) the mouse.
3. Release mouse-2, to yank at the release point.

That is, it would be good for the highlit position to follow the mouse, so
you can always see the actual yank position highlighted.

One of the reasons to highlight is, as Stefan suggested, to be sure you're
pasting to the right position. Tracking the mouse with a highlight helps in
this regard. Otherwise, you see only the initial (press) position
highlighted, and the same difficulty in getting the position right arises
when you then try to correct the position.

Re: paste when cursor is in the fringe

[Richard Stallman]

    I noticed that I can't paste into a line when the cursor is in the fringe,
    i.e. when the line is filled up to the last column.

Please send a _precise_ test case so people can try to reproduce this.