From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Mathias Dahl" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: C-h K and C-h F in the Help menu Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 11:57:47 +0200 Message-ID: <7dbe73ed0605210257n6e89d6b8vdba5561fcc93c3bd@mail.gmail.com> References: <446F87C6.4090109@student.lu.se> <85hd3k9y22.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <446F9027.50409@student.lu.se> <85bqts9wjx.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <7dbe73ed0605201544u3e34e12fx3eab4307e653671c@mail.gmail.com> <853bf49uft.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1148205497 14203 80.91.229.2 (21 May 2006 09:58:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 09:58:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Lennart Borgman , Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 21 11:58:14 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FhkhH-0004Jk-Nt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 May 2006 11:58:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FhkhH-0000XQ-CY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 May 2006 05:58:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Fhkh6-0000XL-1f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 May 2006 05:57:52 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Fhkh3-0000W7-Jz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 May 2006 05:57:50 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Fhkh3-0000Vo-Db for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 May 2006 05:57:49 -0400 Original-Received: from [64.233.184.237] (helo=wr-out-0506.google.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Fhkkn-0005ud-0y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 May 2006 06:01:41 -0400 Original-Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i3so865392wra for ; Sun, 21 May 2006 02:57:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=LzGmyereHhPbpiJn5un5mggl5l/5MF4Q1Ubzq0+Gxr8rtSJ10EK/OUBepHvreo5xyt4IFeenNTo1+0VSUaZZSPIv9luDPKN60f0gWJ4RQIO2G6N7zSzt62+tjoOqML/J3rYgYsEgKdnEwzoBDubRyBmk7UNDPGwLiN8H0jB7Rgk= Original-Received: by 10.54.111.9 with SMTP id j9mr2263971wrc; Sun, 21 May 2006 02:55:56 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.54.108.5 with HTTP; Sun, 21 May 2006 02:57:47 -0700 (PDT) Original-To: "David Kastrup" In-Reply-To: <853bf49uft.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:54938 Archived-At: > You don't have "up", "next", "previous", "top" keyboard keys, and the > respective buttons scroll around with the rest of the page. > ... Okay okay okay, I get your point. I won't argue with you on the benefits on using Info vs HTML; as I said I use it myself when I feel like using it. Some days though, I just like to browse around some plain "dumb" HTML. And, I won't give in here, "forcing" new users to use this (for some of them at least) "strange" Info interface when we could also provide a link (it would not need to be the default) to some HTML-version of the documentation, is a pity. Just because we know Info is superior to HTML in many respect does not mean that we should not provide an alternative. For example, we could add a new menu item, "Read the manual online" (or maybe "Read the HTML manual online") under the sub menu Help -> More manuals. I did not read this thread from the beginning so I probably should stop now= ...